Peter,
Yes, when we have these threads that say "I wish I was alive back then... golden age... yadayada", little things like the invention of penicillin rear their heafds and make me say "I'm glad that I'm alive now!". Oh, WAYLTN??
Amalie,
Yes, lovely indeed, and very moving. Also aple evidence that he was a pretty morbid fellow, although from the literature I have read from the time, it seems to be a common trait of that generation to dwell on "other worlds". I think the tragedy there is that he knew the inevitability that the disease was going to do him in as it did others who had it, and he carried that knowledge with him all the time. Makes some of his late works sound like he had it in mind, like the last few piano sonatas.
P.
Those dances are so wonderfully well crafted, so much better than they need to be, Wolfrl always did his best even when there was no call for it. There is tragedy there, too. Those were the works, the earlier ones anyway, where he said upon being paid for them "too much for what I did, too little for what I could have done". So true!
For me, it is the Symphony in d minor - #9 - Op 125 - Louis Beethoven - London SO/ Jochum. A lovely performance, modern instruments, but very well thought out tempos, much like a HIP performance. Great day for golf here too, sunny but a bit cool, perfect!
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Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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Regards,
Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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Originally posted by Gurn Blanston: Peter,
Yes, when we have these threads that say "I wish I was alive back then... golden age... yadayada", little things like the invention of penicillin rear their heafds and make me say "I'm glad that I'm alive now!". Oh, WAYLTN??
Amalie,
Yes, lovely indeed, and very moving. Also aple evidence that he was a pretty morbid fellow, although from the literature I have read from the time, it seems to be a common trait of that generation to dwell on "other worlds". I think the tragedy there is that he knew the inevitability that the disease was going to do him in as it did others who had it, and he carried that knowledge with him all the time. Makes some of his late works sound like he had it in mind, like the last few piano sonatas.
P.
Those dances are so wonderfully well crafted, so much better than they need to be, Wolfrl always did his best even when there was no call for it. There is tragedy there, too. Those were the works, the earlier ones anyway, where he said upon being paid for them "too much for what I did, too little for what I could have done". So true!
For me, it is the Symphony in d minor - #9 - Op 125 - Louis Beethoven - London SO/ Jochum. A lovely performance, modern instruments, but very well thought out tempos, much like a HIP performance. Great day for golf here too, sunny but a bit cool, perfect!
what's waylyn???and hip??
the ninth...perhaps later on yess I might aswell follow up on the trend which you set can't I gurn..
It's been and is..ouverture too wilhelm tell rossini, the 40th symphnoy mozart, some loose pianowrorks by various composers and the polonaises op.40 by chopin..I'm hoping too be able too study the militairy within 9 months...it's stunning..now performed by folke nauta.
regards,
Ruud
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Music is like Blood...vital too ones well-being
This is Discovery day for me! I just received 4 CD's of music all but forgotten and I feel like a kid with a new toy.
I will be listening to music of the following
composers:
Sir William Herschel (1738-1822)
Six of his symphonies
Johannes Verhulst (1816-1891)
Mass Op.20
Symphony in E minor Op.46
Giovanni Paisiello (1741-1816)
Piano Concerto No.2 in F major
Piano Concerto No.4 in G minor
As can be seen by the dates, Herschel and Paisiello lived at the same time as Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven. Verhulst lived from Beethoven's time up to the late romantic period. I really enjoy finding and hearing obscure works of lesser known composers, they fill in the gaps, so to speak.
Have any of you music lovers heard any of the above pieces?
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Originally posted by King Stephen: This is Discovery day for me! I just received 4 CD's of music all but forgotten and I feel like a kid with a new toy.
I will be listening to music of the following
composers:
Sir William Herschel (1738-1822)
Six of his symphonies
Johannes Verhulst (1816-1891)
Mass Op.20
Symphony in E minor Op.46
Giovanni Paisiello (1741-1816)
Piano Concerto No.2 in F major
Piano Concerto No.4 in G minor
As can be seen by the dates, Herschel and Paisiello lived at the same time as Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven. Verhulst lived from Beethoven's time up to the late romantic period. I really enjoy finding and hearing obscure works of lesser known composers, they fill in the gaps, so to speak.
Have any of you music lovers heard any of the above pieces?
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King,
Sounds like a great find! You probably know
Sir William Herschel was the astronomer in George 111 reign, As I understand that at the time it was thought that the irregular orbit of Neptune was due to the influence of its moon, but Herschel discovered it was a separate planet which is Uranus in 1781. I have seen his house in Bath, England, where he made the discovery, there is a plaque on the house with his name. I don't think I have ever heard his symphonies. http://star.arm.ac.uk/history/herschel.html
I have been busy making some surprising discoveries myself lately and really like what I have heard of Johann Nepomuk Hummel:
Piano Concertos, no. 2, 0p.85
and no. 3, 0p. 89, which are brilliant!
in answer to Gurn's earlier question.
I think they are very similar to Beethoven and have a definately distinct quality to them which I find very attractive.
I can imagine Beethoven listening to these works and indeed commending Hummel on them.
Hummel's Piano Concertos in F major, and themes and variations, performed by The London Mozart Players, are more baroque in tone and feel, but they just go to show what really a fascinating and absorbing composer Hummel is, it is great stuff . It is good to see that he is coming to the fore more.
Also on radio today, a nice Irish flavour with some medieval harp music, including a lovely song: Lamentation of Youths
Ann Heymann (harp)
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~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~
Today on the German TV channel ZDF Theater I saw the 1990 performance of Franz Joseph Haydn's "The Creation" with the Vienna Philharmonic conducted by Riccardo Muti and starring Lucia Popp, Francisco Araiza, Samuel Ramey, and Olaf Bar. This concert which was performed in the grosses Festspielhaus in Salzburg, Austria was followed by a film on Haydn's life and music called "Peter Ustinov's Haydn". Then this film was followed by a concert performed in 1966 at the Palace Esterhazy in Hungary of Haydn's "Farewell Symphony" with the Hungarian Chamber Orchestra. What a wonderful way to spend a Sunday afternoon! I was in Haydn Heaven...
"God knows why it is that my pianoforte music always makes the worst impression on me, especially when it is played badly." -Beethoven 1804.
Amalie: Very moving and emotional poem from Schubert, enjoyed reading it, thanks. Of course it is sad when a person does not live as long as you would like and the BIG question always remains, "What if"? Very sad indeed.
Gurn: Hope you enjoyed 'The Ode' today and your round of gold. Here, cloudy and cooler which is very welcome!
This morning via radio Beethoven's Fidelio Overture with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra
and Yoel Levi, conductig. Also later Mozart's Piano Sonata #15 and also Beethoven's Piano Concerto #4. Lovely listening on a Sunday.
What am I listening to...Christ on the Mount of Olives.
Don't forget about astronomer Hershel's sister Carolyne ,she was a musician and a scientist/astronomer.She was also a brilliant Handel singer ,actually they both, brother and sister adored Handel.
Originally posted by spaceray: What am I listening to...Christ on the Mount of Olives.
Don't forget about astronomer Hershel's sister Carolyne ,she was a musician and a scientist/astronomer.She was also a brilliant Handel singer ,actually they both, brother and sister adored Handel.
It seems that you and Amalie are up on your Herschel. I actually read today that Herschel and his sister were both astronomers and that he did indeed discovered Uranus to which at that time he gave it the name 'George Sidus' ( The Star of George).
To his music; I would have to say that it is melodic and pleasing to the ear and is a nice "gap" filler
Originally posted by Gurn Blanston: Tegan,
Missed your post altogether. How is school going? Good to have you back, if only for a day or so. I haven't heard Menuhin play B, but a lot of other things that I liked. I am SOOOoo jealous that you are getting to see a live performance! Great Talk to you soon.
For me, it is still the St Saens. There are 5 of them after all. Now, it is the famous one, #3 in c minor, the Organ Symphony. So French, so Romantique!
Hi! School is going very well for me. i am taking music history, music theory, applied piano with private lessons and performance seminars, and a class on concerti. I don't particularly like my music history class-we're still stuck in modal music, and so far it's basically just memorizing Latin terms. I can't wait until we get to Beethoven. I got to go to the concert (it was in Pittsburg) with my concerti class. It was amazing. I don't blame you for being jealous! We are going to hear the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra with Mitsako Uchida next month, and I can't wait. I've never heard the Saint-Saens concerto...I'll have to look for it.
This afternoon I must listen to Borodin's In the Steppes of Central Asia. It is such a wonderful and soothing piece! Then comes the Polovtsian Dances, then Rimsky-Korsakov's Sadko and the Russian Easter Overture.
If time permits then I will continue with Balakirev's Isalmey; Arensky's Dream on the Volga overture; Glazunov's Spring and Romantic Intermezzo in D; Liadov's About Olden Times, From the Apocalypse, Baba Yaga, The Enchanted Lake, Kikimora; and Kalinnikov's Nymphs.
There is something very compelling to me about Russian music.
Some Dvorak to put the soul at ease.
His Symphony No.6 in D Major op.60 and the Suite in A Major for Orchestra op.98b
The fact that it was composed in American it gained the title "American" which has little to do with the actual music. Antonin again combining western Europe style with Czech flavor. Brahms knew great talent rested in Dvorak when he heard his music.
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