What are you listening to now ?

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King,
Dvorak and Victor Herbert are connected while Antonin was in the USA,he was inspired by Victor's String Quartets. I think they were working together on an orchestration project however I don't know what piece of music it might have been.Do you?
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[Gurn Blanston]

Pastor Ali,
Does that CD say who Clarke was? I must say, he is new one on me. I like late Baroque and Classical trumpet Concertos. Leopold Mozart wrote one that is nice, and so did our Wolfrl, but it is lost. Perhaps the pieces will be found one day, it was for a benefit concert for an Italian orphanage, so it was definitely written, but never found. Haydn's is a treat though, eh?

Amalie,
Hah! Isn't that bratsche music wonderful? Do you also have the Mendelssohn Viola Sonata? It fits in with that group really well! I haven't taken a look at that link yet, but after this I will. Thanks.

Tegan,
Oh man, that sounds like a great curriculum. Of course you are saying that about music history just to break my heart becasue you know that is my thing, but hey, that's OK , I understand... And that concert went well, super. You will love Uchida, really. I have here Schubert Sonatas set and it is just wonderful, although there are always those who say "but it is too pretty, Schubert isn't supposed to be pretty". Funny, I never knew that until a reviewer told me. I wonder what Franzrl would have thought. But she really can play, enjoy. Well, let us know how you are doing, always look forward to hearing from you.

Sorrano,
Man, you really have a nice collection of Russian music. I have a lot, but you have a LOT! Hope you got to listen to it all, sounds like a great afternoon.

King,
I look forward to hearing that suite some day, if it is as good as the Czech Suite, it should be a treat. Yes, Brahms was quite taken with Dvorak, and did a lot for him. One thing I am forever grateful for is that he moved him away, early on, from the Liszt-Wagner school of composition into the style that he himself was writing in, whatever you want to call it, though I prefer the incorrect term "neo-classical". His forst two string quartets are as long as Bruckner symphonies! Can you imagine where that might have gone?

Spacerl,
I thought it might be D's b minor cello concerto, the time is right and Herbert was a known cello concerto guy, but I am not 100% sure of that. WAYLTN??

For me, it is the Serenade in E major for String Orchestra - Op 22 - Antonin Dvorak. This is the highly regarded version by the Academy of St Martin in the Fields led by the omnipresent Sir Neville. Super!

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Regards,
Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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[Sorrano]

Gurn, one can't have enough Russian music--for that matter, one can't have enough music period!

I managed to break away from the Russians long enough to enjoy Beethoven's slow movement from the Septet and his Romance in F for Violin and Orchestra. I have to be real careful with the Septet because I want to call it the Schleptet real bad (after P.D.Q. Bach).

[King Stephen]

Originally posted by spaceray:
King,
Dvorak and Victor Herbert are connected while Antonin was in the USA,he was inspired by Victor's String Quartets. I think they were working together on an orchestration project however I don't know what piece of music it might have been.Do you?
spacerl

Spacerl,
V. Herbert helped Dvorak with the cello concerto in B minor op.104. Herbert had composed a cello concerto that impressed Antonin, that being one of the reasons he turned to him for guidance and another
was that the cello's range bothered Dvorak to the extent that Herbert more or less helped with the balancing between cello and orchestra. Not to much different than Joachim helping Brahms with his violin concerto.
King

[King Stephen]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
Pastor Ali,
Does that CD say who Clarke was? I must say, he is new one on me. I like late Baroque and Classical trumpet Concertos. Leopold Mozart wrote one that is nice, and so did our Wolfrl, but it is lost. Perhaps the pieces will be found one day, it was for a benefit concert for an Italian orphanage, so it was definitely written, but never found. Haydn's is a treat though, eh?

Amalie,
Hah! Isn't that bratsche music wonderful? Do you also have the Mendelssohn Viola Sonata? It fits in with that group really well! I haven't taken a look at that link yet, but after this I will. Thanks.

Tegan,
Oh man, that sounds like a great curriculum. Of course you are saying that about music history just to break my heart becasue you know that is my thing, but hey, that's OK , I understand... And that concert went well, super. You will love Uchida, really. I have here Schubert Sonatas set and it is just wonderful, although there are always those who say "but it is too pretty, Schubert isn't supposed to be pretty". Funny, I never knew that until a reviewer told me. I wonder what Franzrl would have thought. But she really can play, enjoy. Well, let us know how you are doing, always look forward to hearing from you.

Sorrano,
Man, you really have a nice collection of Russian music. I have a lot, but you have a LOT! Hope you got to listen to it all, sounds like a great afternoon.

King,
I look forward to hearing that suite some day, if it is as good as the Czech Suite, it should be a treat. Yes, Brahms was quite taken with Dvorak, and did a lot for him. One thing I am forever grateful for is that he moved him away, early on, from the Liszt-Wagner school of composition into the style that he himself was writing in, whatever you want to call it, though I prefer the incorrect term "neo-classical". His forst two string quartets are as long as Bruckner symphonies! Can you imagine where that might have gone?

Spacerl,
I thought it might be D's b minor cello concerto, the time is right and Herbert was a known cello concerto guy, but I am not 100% sure of that. WAYLTN??

For me, it is the Serenade in E major for String Orchestra - Op 22 - Antonin Dvorak. This is the highly regarded version by the Academy of St Martin in the Fields led by the omnipresent Sir Neville. Super!

Ah yes, the string serenade op.22. one of the sweetest pieces of music for string orchestra. Dvoraks serenade for winds op.44 is also a work which is high on my list of Dvorak's compositions, then again most all of Dvorak is high on my list.. Nice listening Gurn.....

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King ,
Thanks for setting me straight,
I am looking for a good book on Dvorak.
Meanwhile I'm listening to Mozart K 608 ,Fantasia in F minor for organ,arranged for two pianos by Ferruccio Busoni,played by Murray Perahia and Radu Lupu.
Now didn't Gurn tell us he was going to listen to Figaro?How was it.
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[Amalie]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
[B]Pastor Ali,
Does that CD say who Clarke was? I must say, he is new one on me. I like late Baroque and Classical trumpet Concertos. Leopold Mozart wrote one that is nice, and so did our Wolfrl, but it is lost. Perhaps the pieces will be found one day, it was for a benefit concert for an Italian orphanage, so it was definitely written, but never found. Haydn's is a treat though, eh?

Amalie,
Hah! Isn't that bratsche music wonderful? Do you also have the Mendelssohn Viola Sonata? It fits in with that group really well! I haven't taken a look at that link yet, but after this I will. Thanks.

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Gurn,
Yes, the Beethoven's Bratsche CD was a wonderful find, it is very special to me.
I am afraid I have not heard Mendelssohn's Viola Sonata. One of these days I will look for it!
Here is a short bio of the composer Jeremiah Clarke, Pastor Ali was listening to:
Apparently the poor chap committed suicide, distracted by a 'violent and hopeless passion for a very beautiful lady of a rank superior to his own'.
Now would you believe it!
http://classicalplus.gmn.com/compose...ser.asp?id=551

My playlist this am. included:

Another very pleasing baroque discovery for me:
Luka Sorkocevic [1734-1789]
Symphony no.3 in D major
Salzburger Hofmusik
Wolfgang Brunner (director)

Sorry the link didn't work!

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Thomas Linley (the younger) 1756-1778
Air: 'When in beauty wilt though rise'
from 'Darthula' Angelically sung by, Julia Gooding (soprano)
The Parley of Instruments
Peter Holman (director)

Spacerl will surely love this one!

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Faure:
Fantaisie for flute, harp & piano
Jennifer Stinton (flute)
Allen Brewer (harp)

Liszt:
Mephisto-waltz, no.1
'The Dance in the Village'
Orchestre de Paris
Sir Georg Solti.

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Blagoje Bersa: (Croatian composer)
Suncana Polja (Sunny Fields)
A very pleasing piece with the lovely sound of shepherds flutes in the distance.
Zagreb Philharmonia Orchestra

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Moving on to Mozart:
Violin Concerto no.5,
I Virtuosi di sonta Cecilia
Igor Oistrakh/Violin/conductor



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~ Unsterbliche Geliebte


[This message has been edited by Amalie (edited 09-20-2004).]

[Gurn Blanston]

Sorrano,
I believe that you are correct on both counts. So much music, so little time! Speaking of PDQ Bach, we ought to devote a thread to him. THAT would be amusing!

King,
I thought that was the case with Herbert, but not 100% sure. As for the serenade, it is all of that. Probably tomorrow night I will reach the Op 40's and it will be time for another listen to the Wind Serenade too. Looking forward to it.

Spacerl,
I sure would be interested to hear that Fantasia, interesting arrangement. As for Figaro, I gotta tell you, what I heard of it was wonderful, but I had this problem, see, I was terminally sleepy when I started, and by Act II... Try it again this weekend.

Amalie,
Thanks for that info. Unfortunately, I WOULD believe it. Interesting to see that times don't change that much. The reason I asked about the Mendelssohn is that my copy of the Op 42 is paired with it, so I was fortunate to get them at the same time. Hyperion, they're Brits, you know? Oh, that link wasn't a failure, I just needed to attack it from work where I have fast Internet. Sorkevic, now that sounds interesting. Galant, yes? I shall have to look that one up. And just a bunch of others too. Amazing variety on that list. Enjoy.

For me, it the Overture to the Bronze Horse by Daniel Francois Auber (1782-1871). The French were quite bold in their overture style at that time, it reminds one more of Rossini than any else that comes to mind. Very nice, I must say.


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Regards,
Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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[Sorrano]

Now you folks have done it! With all the talk of Dvorak I just had to listen to his Symphony No. 5 in F last night. This morning I picked up on a French composer's 3 pieces for flute and orchestra; I believe his name is Benjamin Godai (spelling of the last name is phonetic--I don't know French so that is my best guess). Anyone hear of him? He is a bit older than Debussy but not by much, I believe.

[King Stephen]

Originally posted by spaceray:
King ,
Thanks for setting me straight,
I am looking for a good book on Dvorak.
Meanwhile I'm listening to Mozart K 608 ,Fantasia in F minor for organ,arranged for two pianos by Ferruccio Busoni,played by Murray Perahia and Radu Lupu.
Now didn't Gurn tell us he was going to listen to Figaro?How was it.
spacerl

I, for one, think that if Gurn gets through "Figaro" and likes it we should call for a world hoiday. We could call it "Gurn's International Opera Day"....

[Gurn Blanston]

Sorrano,
Well, you could hardly have done yourself a greater service, even with all that great Russian music, a little Bohemian now and then just adds that spice to life!

King,
Well, I have every intention of liking it, hope I do! It was not the opera that put me under though, it was just life in general having worn me out. Oh well, tomorrow is another day, and there is no telling what a night's sleep will do for me.

Right now, it is the Overture to "Medea" by Luigi Cherubini (1760-1842). It is no wonder that Beethoven admired Cherubini, his composition is a cut above the average of his peers, no doubt about that.


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Regards,
Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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[atserriotserri]

Originally posted by King Stephen:
This is Discovery day for me! I just received 4 CD's of music all but forgotten and I feel like a kid with a new toy.
I will be listening to music of the following
composers:

Sir William Herschel (1738-1822)
Six of his symphonies

Johannes Verhulst (1816-1891)
Mass Op.20
Symphony in E minor Op.46

Giovanni Paisiello (1741-1816)
Piano Concerto No.2 in F major
Piano Concerto No.4 in G minor

As can be seen by the dates, Herschel and Paisiello lived at the same time as Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven. Verhulst lived from Beethoven's time up to the late romantic period. I really enjoy finding and hearing obscure works of lesser known composers, they fill in the gaps, so to speak.
Have any of you music lovers heard any of the above pieces?

[This message has been edited by King Stephen (edited 09-19-2004).]

I've listened to Don Chisciotte from Paisiello (a free adaptation of Cervantes' Don Quijote in which characters become middle-class napolitans, with a great sense of irony).
As far as I know (inner notes on the cd) he was quite a remarkable opera composer, he is considered a master in opera buffa and a remarkable influence on Mozart.
If it helps you in your exploring, my cd was a present from a friend and is edited by Nuova Era, a italian discographic specialised in live recordings of relatively unfamiliar italian music, basically operas, and at least my one was budget-priced.

[ruudp]

[quote]Originally posted by Amalie:
[b]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
Pastor Ali,
Does that CD say who Clarke was? I must say, he is new one on me. I like late Baroque and Classical trumpet Concertos. Leopold Mozart wrote one that is nice, and so did our Wolfrl, but it is lost. Perhaps the pieces will be found one day, it was for a benefit concert for an Italian orphanage, so it was definitely written, but never found. Haydn's is a treat though, eh?

Amalie,
Hah! Isn't that bratsche music wonderful? Do you also have the Mendelssohn Viola Sonata? It fits in with that group really well! I haven't taken a look at that link yet, but after this I will. Thanks.

=======

Gurn,
Yes, the Beethoven's Bratsche CD was a wonderful find, it is very special to me.
I am afraid I have not heard Mendelssohn's Viola Sonata. One of these days I will look for it!
Here is a short bio of the composer Jeremiah Clarke, Pastor Ali was listening to:
Apparently the poor chap committed suicide, distracted by a 'violent and hopeless passion for a very beautiful lady of a rank superior to his own'.
Now would you believe it!
http://classicalplus.gmn.com/compose...ser.asp?id=551

My playlist this am. included:

Another very pleasing baroque discovery for me:
Luka Sorkocevic [1734-1789]
Symphony no.3 in D major
Salzburger Hofmusik
Wolfgang Brunner (director)

Sorry the link didn't work!

**
Thomas Linley (the younger) 1756-1778
Air: 'When in beauty wilt though rise'
from 'Darthula' Angelically sung by, Julia Gooding (soprano)
The Parley of Instruments
Peter Holman (director)

Spacerl will surely love this one!

**

Faure:
Fantaisie for flute, harp & piano
Jennifer Stinton (flute)
Allen Brewer (harp)

Liszt:
Mephisto-waltz, no.1
'The Dance in the Village'
Orchestre de Paris
Sir Georg Solti.

**

Blagoje Bersa: (Croatian composer)
Suncana Polja (Sunny Fields)
A very pleasing piece with the lovely sound of shepherds flutes in the distance.
Zagreb Philharmonia Orchestra

**

Moving on to Mozart:
Violin Concerto no.5,
I Virtuosi di sonta Cecilia
Igor Oistrakh/Violin/conductor

Amalie,

I've got that mephistowalz played on the piano by by klara wurtz...it's quite the spectacle piece..thrilling to hear..I'l put that cd up next..together with rach's 2nd pianoconcerto in c minor..Also it's been a round of slavonic dances for me by dvorak and it will be the 20th pianoconcerto of mozart with derek han on the piano .. quite the mixed program you've got btw..
regards,
Ruud

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Music is like Blood...vital too ones well-being

[spaceray]

Originally posted by King Stephen:

I, for one, think that if Gurn gets through "Figaro" and likes it we should call for a world hoiday. We could call it "Gurn's International Opera Day"....

I wonder if the Gurnerator might be better off cutting his teeth on Leoncavallo or Mascagni instead of jumping head first into "Figaro",I bet he would be big on Carmen knowing what an old dog he is.The music is pretty too.

[spaceray]

Originally posted by Amalie:


Thomas Linley (the younger) 1756-1778
Air: 'When in beauty wilt though rise'
from 'Darthula' Angelically sung by, Julia Gooding (soprano)
The Parley of Instruments
Peter Holman (director)

Spacerl will surely love this one!

Amalie,
I will look out for "The Parley of Instruments" Sounds just my sort of thing.

I love the Liszt and the Faure too ,I'm crazy about Faure's songs ,they are lovely and lovely to sing.

I've heard that Mephisto played on the violin,Gurn told me about it .I think it was on a Gil Shaham recording.
spacerl