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Old 06-26-2017, 01:40 PM   #41
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Thanks, Don Q! That was well worth the time listening to it. It did remind me of Holst, particularly the opening measures of The Planets. Thank you for posting that!
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Thanks, Don Q! That was well worth the time listening to it. It did remind me of Holst, particularly the opening measures of The Planets. Thank you for posting that!
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:59 AM   #43
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Mozart Piano Concerto in C minor - what a great work!
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:30 PM   #44
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Haydn - Harmoniemesse (Gardiner)

Haydn's last major work, and one of my favorites.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:57 AM   #45
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Mozart Piano Concerto in C minor - what a great work!
I'm listening to Mozart Piano Concertos by Gardiner on Spotify, who knew they had such a large range of classical music. Honestly there's not a bad concerto in the set - so many masterpieces.
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Old 07-05-2017, 01:32 PM   #46
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I'm listening to Mozart Piano Concertos by Gardiner on Spotify, who knew they had such a large range of classical music. Honestly there's not a bad concerto in the set - so many masterpieces.
I much preferred his concerti to his symphonies.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:51 AM   #47
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Listening to Beethoven's first two symphonies. I used to neglect these works, but the older I get the more I appreciate them. I often times go back and listen to Beethoven's strictly Classical music and take a break from the emotionally heavy hitters like the 3rd, 5th and 9th, and these two symphonies are like a breath of fresh air.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:35 PM   #48
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Mendelssohn: Symphony's No. 1 and 5
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:22 PM   #49
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I much preferred his concerti to his symphonies.
So does the rest of the world. Alfred Einstein, the author of the famous biography on Mozart, wrote about this in the chapter on the Mozart Piano Concertos.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:22 AM   #50
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I don't know if it's a special state of mind I am in or what, but I think this is one of the wonders of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHw2d_C24rU

I don't know about Menuhin, but the singer ... The conductor, well, is not one of the great names, but I don't mind that. I think the performance is extraordinary.

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Old 07-14-2017, 01:04 PM   #51
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Brahms Intermezzo op.117 no.2 - beautiful piece played by someone you don't usually associate with Brahms, Glen Gould.
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Old 07-14-2017, 01:39 PM   #52
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Peter, I've heard this particular one several times on the local classical station but do not remember who played. However, I lament that they only play this one, it seems, and not the others, as well. I like Gould's touch on this one, thank you for posting it!
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:17 PM   #53
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I've just watched Igor Levit's stunning performance of Beethoven's Third Piano Concerto on the first night of the Proms.
The pianist said it was his favourite concerto and you can see that in his performance. The cadenza of the first movement alone is worth the price of admission.
And as an encore, after all these pyrotechnics, he played a deceptively simple version of the "Ode to Joy"!
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:34 PM   #54
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Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 2. This is one that should be heard more often.
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:53 PM   #55
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My favorite recording of the Choral Fantasy:
London Philharmonic Orchestra.
Bernard Haitink conducting.
Alfred Brendel, piano.
https://youtu.be/E145w0qRc4w
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:23 PM   #56
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Mozart PC #20 in D minor/Perahia/ECO.
A marvelous performance. That 2nd movement had great moments. I highly recommend it.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:16 PM   #57
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Friedrich Wilhelm Rust (1739-96) sonata no.11 in F# minor - interesting performance here on a rare 'Tangent ' piano.

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Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 3
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:02 PM   #59
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I heard Serkin play Bach's Italian Concerto on the radio on the way to an early car maintenance appointment this morning. It made getting up early worth it!
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Friedrich Wilhelm Rust (1739-96) sonata no.11 in F# minor - interesting performance here on a rare 'Tangent ' piano.

Interesting performance indeed, Peter - thank you for the "heads up" regarding the 'Tangent' piano which is totally new to me. Do you know if the 'Tangent' would have been an instrument known to Beethoven?
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Interesting performance indeed, Peter - thank you for the "heads up" regarding the 'Tangent' piano which is totally new to me. Do you know if the 'Tangent' would have been an instrument known to Beethoven?
Hello Quijote, good to know you still frequent us from time to time. Yes the instrument was unknown to me also, but according to this article Mozart made a reference to it and apparently it was around in the early 19th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent_piano
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Old 07-26-2017, 09:31 AM   #62
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Bach Partita in C minor - Martha Argerich
Here's a sample of her great playing of the last movement
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:10 PM   #63
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I caught part of the Leonore Overture No. 3 on the radio driving home from work last night. I recognized the piece after about 15 seconds or so, but I knew it was Beethoven after only a few seconds. I find that that happens so often with Beethoven - you know it's him even before you recognize the piece, or even if you don't recognize the piece. His style is unmistakable
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Old 07-31-2017, 01:32 PM   #64
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I caught part of the Leonore Overture No. 3 on the radio driving home from work last night. I recognized the piece after about 15 seconds or so, but I knew it was Beethoven after only a few seconds. I find that that happens so often with Beethoven - you know it's him even before you recognize the piece, or even if you don't recognize the piece. His style is unmistakable
I am with you on that! This morning the radio came on during the slow movement of Beethoven's 7th trio. Immediately, I recognized the composer.
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Old 08-02-2017, 01:17 PM   #65
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Prokofiev Piano Concerto No.3 - Evgeny Kissin.
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Old 08-02-2017, 11:12 PM   #66
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I am with you on that! This morning the radio came on during the slow movement of Beethoven's 7th trio. Immediately, I recognized the composer.
The 5th Symphony came on a few weeks ago and I was able to identify it after only four notes. Beat that!
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:15 AM   #67
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The 5th Symphony came on a few weeks ago and I was able to identify it after only four notes. Beat that!
I might be able to beat that but darned if those notes are just too quick for me.
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The 5th Symphony came on a few weeks ago and I was able to identify it after only four notes. Beat that!
Depends which notes

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The 5th Symphony came on a few weeks ago and I was able to identify it after only four notes. Beat that!
Reminds me of the excellent BBC series from years ago 'Face the music' with Joseph Cooper. Here's a clip which also includes William Walton as guest - at 11'10 you have to identify the music.
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Good point - and an interesting idea for a quiz.

A few years ago, on University Challenge, there was a section on classical music in which the contestants were asked to identify a number of well-known symphonic works.

Instead of playing the familiar openings, a short phrase was taken from somewhere within the movement and it was tricky enough.

(Just noticed Peter has put up "Face the Music" which was a great programme many years ago and it uses a similar idea.)



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In the USA we had Name That Tune. That was more about identifying songs, though.

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In the USA we had Name That Tune. That was more about identifying songs, though.
You mean identifying the ads?
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The dummy keyboard bit in that Face the Music video was impossible for me.

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Good point - and an interesting idea for a quiz.

A few years ago, on University Challenge, there was a section on classical music in which the contestants were asked to identify a number of well-known symphonic works.

Instead of playing the familiar openings, a short phrase was taken from somewhere within the movement and it was tricky enough.

(Just noticed Peter has put up "Face the Music" which was a great programme many years ago and it uses a similar idea.)



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That sounds like a good idea. I might make my own quiz with fragments of Beethoven pieces. Though, I think you'd probably win .

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Old 08-04-2017, 10:37 AM   #74
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Well, I should be able to recognize something by Beethoven - but with me it's usually a case of :"I know that - but what the hell is it?"
I'm particularly bad at recognising anything that has been altered slightly. I think Joseph Cooper did something in that line as well on his programme.








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Gluck-Sgambati: Melodie played by Rachmaninov and recorded from a piano roll using new techniques.

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Long trip today included all of op. 18 string quartets, as well as the 3 "Razumovsky" quartets, played by The Amadeus Quartet. They were my first exposure to the LVB Quartets.
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Long trip today included all of op. 18 string quartets, as well as the 3 "Razumovsky" quartets, played by The Amadeus Quartet. They were my first exposure to the LVB Quartets.
I bet they shortened that trip for you! I love the Amadeus recordings of Opus 18 (even if they do leave out a lot of exposition repeats) but my "go to" recordings will always be the Italianos.

Come to think of it, there are very few recordings of the Beethoven quartets that do not succeed in some way. The music takes care of itself - and Beethoven knew that two centuries ago.

Since I discovered the quartets back in 1972, the rest of my musical life has been an anticlimax.
(I'm exaggerating - but not much,)
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I bet they shortened that trip for you! I love the Amadeus recordings of Opus 18 (even if they do leave out a lot of exposition repeats) but my "go to" recordings will always be the Italianos.

Come to think of it, there are very few recordings of the Beethoven quartets that do not succeed in some way. The music takes care of itself - and Beethoven knew that two centuries ago.

Since I discovered the quartets back in 1972, the rest of my musical life has been an anticlimax.
(I'm exaggerating - but not much,)
They don't shorten the trip, but they help me think about good things.
I usually preface the op. 18 with the string trios and augment them with the (string) Quintet. That puts things in a more proper chronological order.
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This morning, Schumann: Symphony No. 2
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Prompted by the old 1949 movie which I've just watched, I am listening to "The Legend of the Glass Mountain" by Nino Rota.

I suppose it barely qualifies as "classical" music. It belongs to a genre of film music which probably started with Richard Addinsell's "Warsaw Concerto" (1941) which was an ersatz Rachmaninoff piece that became very popular.

It was my mother who introduced me to the Glass Mountain music when I was very young and it's probably the first piece of quasi-classical music that I remember.

It's a trifle bombastic but it has some lovely tunes which a lot of the "great" composers might envy.

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