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Old 08-27-2017, 08:40 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Enrique View Post
There is always a predecessor, it seems. Well then Tchaikowsky with his 6th was a plagiarizing Haydn, I'd never have thought. I can well remember that, in the case of Brahms' 3rd, ending almost just as it begins. And in the 1st, those F-Ab, F-Ab, F-Ab, E are superb, if the literary language could do justice to music, which it never could.
I wouldn't say Tchaikovsky was plagiarizing Haydn, after all composers learn from other composers - in any case I doubt very much that he was influenced by Haydn's two examples when composing the 6th. With the Brahms 3rd, yes it ends as it begins (but softly) just like the Beethoven 8th first movt.
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