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    Music and Color: the French Connection

    Eighteenth-century French ideas about music and tone color crystallized in two related phenomena: the early modern interest in musical instruments with an optical dimension, and the codification of a critical language for tonality in the early nineteenth century, particularly among the mathematician and musicologist Alexandre-Étienne Choron and the polymath François-Joseph Fétis. This attraction to musical color interacted with broader cultural impulses, from the dialogue of sound and science to a vogue for discussing musical repertories in tandem with the visual arts.

    Between 1725 and 1825, fascination with musical color shifted from practice to theory, from scientific experimentation and the construction of new musical instruments to a more theoretical discussion of color and tone. This blog post is about a polarizing figure who sought to build musical color-instruments: Louis-Bertrand Castel. In a subsequent post, I turn to Choron, Fétis, and others who traced how musical harmony and its colorful chromaticisms had changed since the eighteenth century, and what those changes meant for instruments, players, and the public who discussed their scintillating sounds and performances.
    http://theappendix.net/blog/2013/8/m...nch-connection
    Ludwig van Beethoven
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    #2
    Fascinating and extraordinary how much overall agreement there is in that colour chart. I was aware of Scriabin's interest in this, but had not realised it went so far back to Newton. Beethoven referred to B minor as a 'black' key, but possibly he was thinking more of mood than colour? Much of the distinctive character of keys was lost with the introduction of Equal temperament.

    The Ancient Greek modes identified key modes (moods) with feelings, but they differ from the Church modes of Gregorian chant.
    'Man know thyself'

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      #3
      Fascinating and extraordinary how much overall agreement there is in that colour chart. I was aware of Scriabin's interest in this, but had not realised it went so far back to Newton.
      Yes it is a subject I find very interesting, given that I love classical music and have a diploma in colour therapy ( we looked at the history of colour therapy, studies into colour and music) and did a day course on sound healing.


      Beethoven referred to B minor as a 'black' key, but possibly he was thinking more of mood than colour?
      I think he just might have been..


      Much of the distinctive character of keys was lost with the introduction of Equal temperament.
      I know!!! What a shame this is- its why I mostly listen to period instrument recordings.

      The Ancient Greek modes identified key modes (moods) with feelings, but they differ from the Church modes of Gregorian chant.
      Yes, I have done some online courses that looked into music history and development- fascinating stuff!
      Ludwig van Beethoven
      Den Sie wenn Sie wollten
      Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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        #4
        Originally posted by AeolianHarp View Post


        I know!!! What a shame this is- its why I mostly listen to period instrument recordings.


        Yes, but you still can't be sure what tuning system they're using.
        'Man know thyself'

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          #5
          Originally posted by Peter View Post
          Yes, but you still can't be sure what tuning system they're using.
          I know what The Hanover Band use and what Ronald Brautigam uses..
          Ludwig van Beethoven
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          Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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            #6
            That was all very interesting and I noticed that Newton didn't display any colours for the sharp keys.
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              #7
              This made me think of Shape Notes. Just something I've heard of, but know very little about. Wondering if it's at all relevant to the topic?
              "If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly." - G.K. Chesterton

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                #8
                What are shape notes?
                Ludwig van Beethoven
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                  #9
                  If I understand it correctly the notes attempt to make sight reading easier and it's been used since the early 1800's.
                  For example 'fa, sol, la' there's a triangle used for 'fa', an oval is used for 'sol', a rectangle is used for 'la' and so on. How this would make it easier don't ask me, it sounds complicated to me.
                  Last edited by Joy; 11-11-2015, 05:43 PM. Reason: sp
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joy View Post
                    If I understand it correctly the notes attempt to make sight reading easier and it's been used since the early 1800's.
                    For example 'fa, sol, la' there's a triangle used for 'fa', an oval is used for 'sol', a rectangle is used for 'la' and so on. How this would make it easier don't ask me, it sounds complicated to me.
                    Er yeahhhhh...that sounds easy- not!
                    Ludwig van Beethoven
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                    Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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                      #11
                      Exactly. If you look up Shape Notes you can see a picture of the shaped notes and a better explanation. Looks more difficult to me than just learning them the usual way.
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                        #12
                        Wikipedia

                        The idea behind shape notes is that the parts of a vocal work can be learned more quickly and easily if the music is printed in shapes that match up with the solfège syllables with which the notes of the musical scale are sung. For instance, in the four-shape tradition used in the Sacred Harp and elsewhere, the notes of a C major scale are notated and sung[a] as follows:
                        "If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly." - G.K. Chesterton

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                          #13
                          Thank you for posting the visual, Symphony 7!
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