Tilting at windmills in Vienna

[Quijote]

Yes, Don Quijote is off to Vienna 7-11 November 2012!
Got me a great deal : 98€ return flight, 190€ hotel / 4 nights. Can you beat that?
Please ladies and gentlemen, any ideas for an intensive 4-day Beethoven immersion plan? I'm gonna do again the Pasqualati house, the graveyard, the Lobkovitz Palace, but I'd like to check out other Beethoven lodgings and bars/restaurants he frequented if still extant.
I'll be doing a bit of Bruckner too, but that I'll handle on my own.
All ideas and tips welcome!

[Enrique]

Naive suggestion: www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de. It could give some ideas.

[Megan]

Outer Vienna




The Augarten park, which lies outside the centre of Vienna between the Danube Canal and the Danube, was laid out as a garden for the Imperial royal family in the 17th century.

In 1775 Emperor Joseph II opened it to the public - the embossed plaque bearing his words, "To All Men This Place Is Dedicated By Their Protector" [trans], still set above the entrance gate.

The Garden Pavilion stands on the ruins of an earlier Emperor's garden palace, and it was in this pavilion from 1782 that the famous musical matinées took place. Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert all performed here, as the plaque on the wall of the pavilion testifies.

Beethoven's great friend, the violinist Ignaz Schuppanzigh, ran the summer series of matinées in the pavilion, and it was at one of these that Beethoven, with the English violinist George Bridgetower, gave the first performance of the Violin Sonata he dedicated to Rudolphe Kreutzer.

[Sorrano]

Did you say something about thumbing your nose as you pass Hanslick's place?

[Quijote]

Naive suggestion: www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de. It could give some ideas.

I'll check that out, thank you Enrique.

[Quijote]

The Augarten park, which lies outside the centre of Vienna between the Danube Canal and the Danube, was laid out as a garden for the Imperial royal family in the 17th century.

In 1775 Emperor Joseph II opened it to the public - the embossed plaque bearing his words, "To All Men This Place Is Dedicated By Their Protector" [trans], still set above the entrance gate.

The Garden Pavilion stands on the ruins of an earlier Emperor's garden palace, and it was in this pavilion from 1782 that the famous musical matinées took place. Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert all performed here, as the plaque on the wall of the pavilion testifies.

Beethoven's great friend, the violinist Ignaz Schuppanzigh, ran the summer series of matinées in the pavilion, and it was at one of these that Beethoven, with the English violinist George Bridgetower, gave the first performance of the Violin Sonata he dedicated to Rudolphe Kreutzer.

Thanks for the tip, Megan. That's almost next door to my hotel in Leopoldstadt!

[Quijote]

Did you say something about thumbing your nose as you pass Hanslick's place?

More than thumbing my nose, Sorrano! Paint spray graffiti for starters ...
Maybe along the lines of "Sorrano and the BRS Bruckner Bootboys woz here"

[Peter]

Yes, Don Quijote is off to Vienna 7-11 November 2012!
Got me a great deal : 98€ return flight, 190€ hotel / 4 nights. Can you beat that?
Please ladies and gentlemen, any ideas for an intensive 4-day Beethoven immersion plan? I'm gonna do again the Pasqualati house, the graveyard, the Lobkovitz Palace, but I'd like to check out other Beethoven lodgings and bars/restaurants he frequented if still extant.
I'll be doing a bit of Bruckner too, but that I'll handle on my own.
All ideas and tips welcome!

The original graveyard in Schubert Park - Tombstone still there.

'Zum Alten Blumenstock' where Beethoven lived from Oct 1819 to 1820- situated in the Ballgasse a small lane not far from the cathedral - you can eat reasonably there.

The Dreifalteskeitkirche where the funeral service was held.

Heilgenstadt

The Haydn museum (where he lived) which is also a Brahms museum!

Theater an der Wien

[Sorrano]

More than thumbing my nose, Sorrano! Paint spray graffiti for starters ...
Maybe along the lines of "Sorrano and the BRS Bruckner Bootboys woz here"

Oh, yeah!

[Preston]

First off Quijote, congratulations and I wish you the best on your trip. Good prices too! Did you use one of the sites like Priceline, etc.?

I think this relates to Beethoven, even if not it would be one heck of a place to visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6nbrunn_Palace

[Hollywood]

Hey Quijote, if you decide to check out Heiligenstadt there are five Beethoven houses in the general area. I live in Heiligenstadt, not too far from these locations, and if you would like to meet up in Heiligenstadt I could take you to these places. I am always happy to meet other members of this forum when they are visiting Vienna. Send me a P.M. if you are interested.

[Quijote]

First off Quijote, congratulations and I wish you the best on your trip. Good prices too! Did you use one of the sites like Priceline, etc.?

I think this relates to Beethoven, even if not it would be one heck of a place to visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6nbrunn_Palace

Hi Preston, yes I used booking.com. Thanks for the link, too.

[Quijote]

Hey Quijote, if you decide to check out Heiligenstadt there are five Beethoven houses in the general area. I live in Heiligenstadt, not too far from these locations, and if you would like to meet up in Heiligenstadt I could take you to these places. I am always happy to meet other members of this forum when they are visiting Vienna. Send me a P.M. if you are interested.

Well thank you very much, Hollywood, I might just take you up on your kind offer! My hotel is in Leopoldstadt, so is it far to Heiligenstadt? I won't be hiring a car, just public transport.

[Hollywood]

My hotel is in Leopoldstadt, so is it far to Heiligenstadt? I won't be hiring a car, just public transport.

This is what is great about Vienna. You don't need a car to get from point A to point B. Now it depends on where in the 2nd district (Leopoldstsadt) your hotel is located as to which public transport you'll need to take. But if it's near Schwedenplatz you can take the subway U4 directly to Heiligenstadt. I live in the Karl Marx Hof which is located across the street from the U4 end station. So not far at all since Heiligenstadt is only 5 stops from Schwedenplatz. Here's a website that can help you out for your trip here: http://www.wien.info/en

Once you are here and plan to use the public transportation, make sure that you buy a Vienna Card (http://www.wien.info/en/travel-info/...blic-transport) which is a great for visitors who are in Vienna for just a few days. When using the public transport you'll need to have a ticket because if you are caught without one by a controller you will have to pay something like €90.

[Quijote]

This is what is great about Vienna. You don't need a car to get from point A to point B. Now it depends on where in the 2nd district (Leopoldstsadt) your hotel is located as to which public transport you'll need to take. But if it's near Schwedenplatz you can take the subway U4 directly to Heiligenstadt. I live in the Karl Marx Hof which is located across the street from the U4 end station. So not far at all since Heiligenstadt is only 5 stops from Schwedenplatz. Here's a website that can help you out for your trip here: http://www.wien.info/en

Once you are here and plan to use the public transportation, make sure that you buy a Vienna Card (http://www.wien.info/en/travel-info/...blic-transport) which is a great for visitors who are in Vienna for just a few days. When using the public transport you'll need to have a ticket because if you are caught without one by a controller you will have to pay something like €90.

Thanks for that information, Hollywood. I'll certainly be taking the 72-hour Vienna Card. Do you know if one can buy it at the airport?
The nearest subway to my hotel is Schottenring station.
Many thanks for the tips etc, I'll PM you with my mobile number and hotel just before I leave.