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    #31
    Originally posted by Nightklavier:
    Out of all of the people here, I think I might be the weirdest specimen. I'm a 20 year old guy living in North Carolina who has a wide ambition of getting a Ph.D in music history so that I can hopefully teach and/or write about it.

    What's weird about me is how I discovered classical music. It all happened when I heard the first movement of the "Moonlight" sonata. If you can believe this, I used to be a punk teenager listening to the likes of Marilyn Manson (!) but when I heard "Moonlight" my life changed. In fact, I was so impressed and in awe that I knew I had to learn it on our old dusty piano that I never touched. Remarkably, (and one of my life-time achievements) is that I listened to the piece over and over and learned to play it on piano without any experience or even knowing how to read music. Basically, I tought myself piano through this. It took about 4 months to teach myself "Moonlight." It was such a long time, but you have to realize I was learning by playing 2 seconds of Moonlight and then playing what I heard on the piano.

    When I later compared what I learned by ear with the sheet music, I was astounded (and proud I admit) that I only had a few slight fingering and notational errors. Ever since, I've kept that first movement of "Moonlight" in my repertoire and have been playing it every day for 3 years! Since then, I've also learned the second movement of "Pathetique," the Funeral March movement of Chopin's PS 2 and the Nocturne No. 11 in G minor. I'm working on Liszt's Dante Sonata and Harmonies Poetiques et Religiuses "Pensee des Morts" right now.

    Yea, I'm insane for tackling those difficult works because after 3 years I haven't taken a single piano lesson, and instead of sight-reading, I read sheet music very slowly, learning one bar of music a week and playing what I have for months. Basically, I learn in the hardest way by memorization only and with no fingering advice. It's a huge mistake not to get lessons, but I just don't have time right now.

    But through this "Moonlight" sonata, I discovered that I actually really loved classical music, especially piano. In the course of 3 years I've voraciously listened to all of the greats with a thorough interest in classical and romantic piano. My favorites are Beethoven, Liszt and Chopin.

    Right now, I feel dwarfed by all of these older and more knowledgeable people here, but I have a dream to make this a career and my life. The history of these composers and their works fascinates me so much that I want to major in music history/theory and teach it. I've got a lot to learn, but I'm only 20, and after 3 years of being intimate with classical music, I think I've come pretty far.

    I'm also a bit of a nut... you should see my bed room and my study: Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, and Liszt portraits, busts, hundreds of books (and bookends), a few bobbleheads, a nightlight of Mozart's face, and I've even got custom made bumper stickers. I'm obsessed with these composers to the point of having an actual affection for them =)
    ha, that's funny because it reminds me of how i learned (most of) the first movement of the moonlight. i tried to do it by ear. i got all the bass notes written down, and was later going to try to figure out the chords to go along, but i gave up. it was beyond me. i didn't (and still don't really) read music, but knew music intuitively through years and years of guitar. later i found the sheet music, and worked through it line by line, memorizing as you do now. i made it up to about 60% of the way through, and didn't have much time after that, and sort of gave up. that was 2 years ago. now i don't remember much of it. the intro.. maybe the first 10 bars or so, and then it gets sketchy. little parts after that here and there. i should get back to it and master it, i really should. i have a friend who showed me the first part of the third movement. now that is hard. i managed to play it at about 1/10 speed. anyway.. yeah. your piano playing experience is a lot like mine. i started with easier stuff though. the first thing i learned (by ear) with two hands was the intro to "the soft parade" by the doors. i learned a few different doors things after that (also by ear)... to get both those hands moving and moving independently (sort of). i only tackled beethoven after a year of playing (so now you can compute how long i've been playing piano - 3 years).

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      #32
      Nightklavier,

      You rock! What an amazing story. I feel inspired to get the electric piano out of storage.

      I think I can probably compete with your collection of composer stuff. I have a huge Beethoven library, posters, stamps, postcards, musics boxes, T-shirts, etc., and my friends and family see Beethoven stuff and buy it for me too. I also feel very affectionate toward the Master.
      I am woman. Hear me roar!

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        #33
        I wrote something out that was very long. Unfortunately it still leaves way too much out. I can't do it half-assed, so I'll do it 1/10th assed.

        The short version:

        I'm 26. Texan.

        Pre-college: mostly 80s rock like Van Halen, KISS, Guns N' Roses

        College: vastly expanded my appreciation: better 70s rock (Led Zeppelin), then jazz, then progressive rock and Kubrick films (such great selections he made)

        Right after graduating: Ludwig's Violin Concerto and 9th Symphony blew me away. Grabbed the Violin Concerto disc from Best Buy. Looking back, I can't believe that BB had it since their Classical selection is now so appalling. I haven't bought anything from that place in years.

        And those 5 years ago (the newly post-grad period) I was planning to learn Swedish or Dutch, but German won out (it's close enough) based on its utility with my newfound Classical love. That, and during my first hearings of the Ninth, I examined the text and began translating the words.

        Now I own many many Beethoven books and many classical CDs. And I'm visiting Germany for 3 weeks this fall (included Bonn, no doubt).

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          #34
          Originally posted by White:
          IAnd I'm visiting Germany for 3 weeks this fall (included Bonn, no doubt).
          What are you going to visit in germany (besides Bonn)?

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          *~Ja, was haben's da scho wieder gmacht, Beethoven?~*
          *~Ja, was haben's da scho wieder gmacht, Beethoven?~*

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            #35
            Originally posted by Anthina:
            What are you going to visit in germany (besides Bonn)?

            Probably Berlin (a friend from there can recommend places to go) and München. Not really decided where else I should go. Although I'm sure those three places can eat up time. Flying in via Amsterdam.

            Recommendations are welcome!

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              #36
              Originally posted by White:
              Probably Berlin (a friend from there can recommend places to go) and München. Not really decided where else I should go. Although I'm sure those three places can eat up time. Flying in via Amsterdam.

              Recommendations are welcome!
              München is a good choice :-) There's a lot to see. I don't think there's any kind of Beethoven festival this year down south but if you like Mozart-why not take the train to Salzburg from München? It's pretty close, around 2 hours. And there are numerous Mozart festivals in Germany and Austria this year :-)



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              *~Ja, was haben's da scho wieder gmacht, Beethoven?~*
              *~Ja, was haben's da scho wieder gmacht, Beethoven?~*

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                #37
                At present, my time is split almost evenly between music and linguistics. Most of my attention is focused on Latin, which, due to archaisms and extremely foreign constructions, requires endless patience. Although I cannot speak fluently (I would require a tutor for this), I can decently read German; I still have to frequently look up words, especially in the more difficult books, but can at least read simplistic stuff like Die Märchen easily. However, there are so many idioms! Recently, I spent a long time trying to figure out the exact meaning of the phrase, "ihnen zu Willen sein," which turned out to be some sort of biblical archaism, mocking the Martin Luther translation. Right now I am pretty obsessed with Nietzsche's Also Sprach Zarathustra; a few examples of his cleverness, which might amuse the more German-inclined readers of this forum:

                Rate ich euch zur Nächstenliebe? Lieber noch rate ich euch zur Nächsten-Flucht und zur Fernsten-Liebe!

                Ihr seht nach Oben, wenn ihr nach Erhebung verlangt. Und ich sehe hinab, weil ich erhoben bin.

                Ich liebe alle Die, welche schwere Tropfen sind, einzeln fallend aus der dunklen Wolke, die über den Menschen hängt: sie verkündigen, daß der Blitz kommt, und gehn als Verkündiger zu Grunde.

                Ach, wie übel ihnen das Wort >>Tugend<< aus dem Munde läuft! Und wenn sie sagen: >>ich bin gerecht<<, so klingt es immer gleich wie: >>ich bin gerächt!<<

                Siehe, das ist der Tarantel Höhle! Willst du sie selber sehn? Hier hängt ihr Netz: rühre daran, daß es erzittert.
                Da kommt sie willig: willkommen, Tarantel!

                As you can see, I like puns.

                As for music, I play classic/electric guitar mostly, and a little piano. Ever since I heard Beethoven's 9th I have been passionately obsessed with him...

                Yeah, I went on a bit of a digression there with German, but it's difficult sometimes to contain certain passions.

                [This message has been edited by Beyond Within (edited 05-18-2006).]
                Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
                That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
                And then is heard no more. It is a tale
                Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
                Signifying nothing. -- Act V, Scene V, Macbeth.

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                  #38
                  Hello,

                  when I'm not listening to music, I love to dance Tango Argentino!


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                  www.tango-city.de

                  [This message has been edited by Tango (edited 06-09-2006).]

                  [This message has been edited by Tango (edited 06-09-2006).]
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                    #39
                    Here's an old thread which looks pretty cool. Amazing that so many of these contain reference to rock music - gives one hope for the kids. Cosplusisin are you still around?

                    My name is Ed Chang. I play guitar but also a little saxophone (badly). For most of the last 20 years I have been involved in the experimental/new music/free jazz scene. I have a small independent record label which sells my weird music. I've toured the entirety of the United States and my music has hit the top spot in many American university radio charts. Well, at least for a week or two. At my peak I was performing live twice a week in New York City, where I live. I have performed several John Cage works, as well as works by John Zorn and Kurt Weill. And KISS.

                    Then I really got into Beethoven and that kind of swallowed everything before it. Though I have always respected Beethoven, it wasn't until I decided to get a CD version of my LP set "Complete works of Beethoven on Piano". I'd been using this LP box set of about 20 records as a way to raise the height on one of my speakers. I don't think I ever listened to a complete side.

                    After acquiring the DG complete set I realized that LvB was as complete a genius as there ever was and have since devoted the rest of my life to plumbing the depths of his compositions. The outlet for all this plumbing is my daily blog the, er..Daily Beethoven. Sadly my previous career as an "avantgarde maverick" has gone down the tubes, largely by my own devices. Whenever I mention Beethoven to my avantgarde/jazz friends they look at me as if I had insulted their mother. I have since come to the conclusion that much of what passes as the "modern music scene" is a case of egotistical noodling (with some exceptions).

                    Well, that's me!

                    (oh yeah - I'm a software engineer who was laid off last year (Hoo-ray!) and is spending my free time working on Beethoven-related music projects, of which the Daily Beethoven is the main part.)
                    Last edited by Ed C; 03-29-2011, 02:49 PM.
                    The Daily Beethoven

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                      #40
                      who am I ??

                      I am a retired former Orchestral Librarian at The Manhattan School of Music, living in Queens, New York City. Before MSM, I was the rental administrator at Boosey & Hawkes music publishers and also the librarian for M. Rosenblatt & Son, naval architects and marine engineers. I play piano. I fell in love with Beethoven's music after hearing the Fifth Symphony in high school way back when. I went crazy collecting his music on CDs and own almost everything he wrote, including all of the boxed sets of The Symphonies in print. Right now what would bring Beethoven Bliss is being able to get Beethoven Radio to work on my computer(s)!!! I'm married to a lovely lady who teaches history in high school, and we have three children.

                      This is a GREAT forum.
                      Last edited by Cocchini; 03-29-2011, 05:12 PM.
                      Cocchini

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                        #41
                        Well, Ed, you are truly one cool dude - just as I thought. And you, of all people, know about the avant-garde and their 'legitimacy'. I look forward to more provocative comments from you on the subject!!

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Cocchini View Post
                          This is a GREAT forum.
                          Thank you Cocchini - it's nice to have some support and positive comments given the recent criticism of us that has been publicly aired by some, which in itself does damage. Chris and I strive to maintain a fair balance and don't like to intervene in personal disputes that sometimes arise between some members unless we really have to. Good to have you with us still!!
                          'Man know thyself'

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by The Dude View Post
                            Well, Ed, you are truly one cool dude - just as I thought. And you, of all people, know about the avant-garde and their 'legitimacy'. I look forward to more provocative comments from you on the subject!!
                            Well indeed. One may ask: "Whose legitimacy?". But we shall no doubt debate this later.

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                              #44
                              The Dude doesn't want to seem rude -
                              But it's Ed who's got the "cred"!!

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Philip View Post
                                Well indeed. One may ask: "Whose legitimacy?". But we shall no doubt debate this later.
                                Ditto.

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