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    Originally posted by Peter View Post

    Appropriate in a Covid era! Is this the Del mar edit of the Sextet version popular in Beethoven's time?
    No, it's a reconstruction of the 1807 sextet version made by Hans-Werner Kuthen.
    https://www.henle.de/en/about-us/con...erner-kuethen/
    Last edited by Quijote; 08-09-2021, 07:27 AM.

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      Ok, different editor, but surely based on the same 1807 Sextet version (String quintet and piano)?
      'Man know thyself'

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        Yes, that's right.

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          While we're on chamber versions, here's the piano trio arrangement Beethoven made of his 2nd Symphony:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15uio0oIEpI

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            And here's the same arrangement on period instruments:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PoBiubTFJQ
            Last edited by Quijote; 08-09-2021, 02:20 PM.

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              I've also been working on Haydn's Piano Sonata N? 53 in E minor:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTbrU8bFdM

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                And once again, here's the same on a fortepiano (played by Ronald Brautigam):
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69w51HpB5hs

                I know which one I prefer - what about you?

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                  Originally posted by Quijote View Post
                  And once again, here's the same on a fortepiano (played by Ronald Brautigam):
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69w51HpB5hs

                  I know which one I prefer - what about you?
                  Well the Brautigam is Haydn! Honestly I like Ax, charming man but his performance of the Haydn is dreary.
                  'Man know thyself'

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                    This morning the radio came on with a wind arrangement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony. That was quite refreshing and took me by surprise. Last night Exploring Music with Bill McLaughlin featured the music of Hindemith, which will be the topic for this week. Last night there were some early chamber music (violin, viola sonatas, quartet, etc.).

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                      Beethoven: 32 Variations in C Minor, WoO 80
                      Diabelli they ain't but still, what a delight!
                      In this YouTube link there are 3 consecutive performances (Perahia, Mustonen, Kissin).
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qdxKyR9PU

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                        Originally posted by Quijote View Post
                        Beethoven: 32 Variations in C Minor, WoO 80
                        Diabelli they ain't but still, what a delight!
                        In this YouTube link there are 3 consecutive performances (Perahia, Mustonen, Kissin).
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qdxKyR9PU
                        Apparently Beethoven didn't value them enough to grant them an opus number. Actually I think they're very fine, especially when played by Gilels which I rank over Perahia, Mustonen and Kissin. I haven't played them in years, since I was a student and they're not easy to play!

                        'Man know thyself'

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                          Yes, a great set of variations. When I first heard it I was surprised to find such a substantial work without an opus number.

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                            I have been streaming this very heralded set (though I know it has its detractors). I'm now tempted to purchase it on CD. Yes, I still like CDs! The current cost on Amazon US is sooooo tempting! $46.80!

                            I really enjoyed Anthony Tommasini's article on the recording: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/a...o-sonatas.html
                            He even shows side-by-side comparison audio clips with Schnabel!
                            It's probably no surprise who comes out sounding better.

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                              Originally posted by Peter View Post

                              Apparently Beethoven didn't value them enough to grant them an opus number. Actually I think they're very fine, especially when played by Gilels which I rank over Perahia, Mustonen and Kissin. I haven't played them in years, since I was a student and they're not easy to play!

                              Well, that Gilels is quite rough and ready, I must say, but yeah, impressive. I'd like to try and find a HIP version. Might you have one to hand?

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                                Originally posted by Chris View Post
                                Yes, a great set of variations. When I first heard it I was surprised to find such a substantial work without an opus number.
                                This has always been a mystery to me. When Beethoven came across the work many years later, he reportedly muttered something like: "Oh, Beethoven, what were you doing!"

                                A strange remark which should have been applied to something like "Wellington's Victory" and not this wonderful piece.

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