fantastic Scherzo for piano WOO 52

[gprengel]

Does anyone know this fantastic Scherzo for piano from 1797 ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAdv...&start_radio=1

Why didn't Beethoven use it in a sonata?

[Chris]

Yes, this one really moves!

I believe he considered including this or WoO 53 in the sonata Op. 10 No. 1, but eventually he decided on a three-movement sonata without a dance movement. I'm not sure why.

[Peter]

Thanks for that - new to me and I suspect we're hearing quite a bit of later Beethoven from the 1822 revision.

[Michael]

There are a number of bagatelles and shorter piano works, including the above, which never seem to get recorded or played outside of the big three sets: Op. 33, 119 and 126.
Except Fur Elise of course which is done to death.

Here's another one,which Pletnev did manage to include on a single CD - but usually you have to go to complete editions to find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfPre_V3-yE




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[Chris]

My first encounter with WoO 52 and WoO 56 were on this CD of the Beethoven bagatelles by John O'Conor:

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...?album_id=7744

The recordings of the usual suspects, Opp. 33, 119, and 126, on this disc are also very good.

[hal9000]

Thanks for that - new to me and I suspect we're hearing quite a bit of later Beethoven from the 1822 revision.

Parts of that trio is very reminiscent of his Diabelli variations to my ears.

[gprengel]

I could not resist to try an orchestration of this marvelous Scherzo:

http://gerdprengel.de/Beeth_Woo52_orch.mp3 :-)

Gerd

[Peter]

Really enjoyed that - doesn't it sound much closer to the world of the 9th symphony scherzo than the 1st symphony?

[gprengel]

I could not resist to try an orchestration of this marvelous Scherzo:

http://gerdprengel.de/Beeth_Woo52_orch.mp3 :-)

Gerd

By now I made an update with an increased tempo to make it a real Presto! What a fantastic Scherzo!!

And here now also in a version as a string quartet: http://gerdprengel.de/Beeth_Woo52_quartet.mp3