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    Do we only have the violin concerto, the two romances and the other concerto that was not finished. Are there no other violin and orchestra works from our beloved Beethoven? I do not find violin and piano that appealing so have gone out and obtained a 2CD set of Saint Saens that has the three violin concertos and about 9 other violin and orchestra pieces.
    "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
    --Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff

    #2
    As far as I have found, just those, but the quality is excellent! Quality over quantity and all that...
    Ludwig van Beethoven
    Den Sie wenn Sie wollten
    Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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      #3
      There is the Triple Concerto, if you don't mind some piano and cello with your violin, and the Benedictus of the Missa Solemnis, with its remarkably beautiful solo violin part. But as for entire pieces just for violin and orchestra, there are no others.

      It's too bad you don't care for violin and piano, as the violin sonatas are filled with excellent music. Perhaps one day the right recordings will come along and convert you!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Harvey View Post
        Do we only have the violin concerto, the two romances and the other concerto that was not finished. Are there no other violin and orchestra works from our beloved Beethoven? I do not find violin and piano that appealing so have gone out and obtained a 2CD set of Saint Saens that has the three violin concertos and about 9 other violin and orchestra pieces.
        'Only' !! If it were just THE Violin concerto that should be more than enough!
        'Man know thyself'

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          #5
          Ah yes. The Triple Concerto certainly works for me just not violin and piano alone. Maybe I will warm up to that someday and then I will have tons more Beethoven violin to listen to. I must say the Saint Saens violin and orchestra is pretty good. I heard he has been called the French Beethoven. Also have the wonderful Mendelssohn violin concerto. There are others, many others. This may be the place for me to explore a diverse spectrum of composers.
          "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
          --Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff

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            #6
            Venturing into the Romantics, the Tchaikovsky violin concerto is one of my favorite pieces (and I love the Mendelssohn as well). The five Mozart violin concertos are also well worth exploring, especially No. 5. And the Mozart Sinfonia Concertante for violin, viola, and orchestra is fantastic.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Chris View Post
              There is the Triple Concerto, if you don't mind some piano and cello with your violin, and the Benedictus of the Missa Solemnis, with its remarkably beautiful solo violin part. But as for entire pieces just for violin and orchestra, there are no others.

              It's too bad you don't care for violin and piano, as the violin sonatas are filled with excellent music. Perhaps one day the right recordings will come along and convert you!
              Yes, the violin sonatas are exquisite! I love them.
              Ludwig van Beethoven
              Den Sie wenn Sie wollten
              Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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                #8
                Originally posted by AeolianHarp View Post
                Yes, the violin sonatas are exquisite! I love them.
                Guess I'll get there someday. Maybe the concertos are the vehicle to deliver me to the sonatas.
                "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
                --Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  Venturing into the Romantics, the Tchaikovsky violin concerto is one of my favorite pieces (and I love the Mendelssohn as well). The five Mozart violin concertos are also well worth exploring, especially No. 5. And the Mozart Sinfonia Concertante for violin, viola, and orchestra is fantastic.
                  Not to mention the Bruch, Brahms, Sibelius and Elgar!
                  'Man know thyself'

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                    #10
                    Making a judgement from knowing Beethoven's works I would have to say his ability and command when writing for stringed instruments goes beyond most expert string players ability. Please give the violin sonatas a good listening. sit down with the score and let Beethoven do the rest

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                      #11
                      What is everyone's favourite recordings of the violin concerto/violin sonatas? While we're at it, what is everyone's favourite recordings of the cello sonatas and trios?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by hal9000 View Post
                        What is everyone's favourite recordings of the violin concerto/violin sonatas? While we're at it, what is everyone's favourite recordings of the cello sonatas and trios?
                        I have always loved Josef Suk's playing of the Beethoven violin works.

                        Violin concerto - Josef Suk/Boult/New Philharmonia Orchestra
                        Violin sonatas - Josef Suk/Jan Paneneka
                        Cello sonatas - Mstislav Rostropovich/Sviatoslav Richter
                        Piano trios - Beaux Arts Trio
                        String trios - Grumiaux Trio

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dahc View Post
                          Making a judgement from knowing Beethoven's works I would have to say his ability and command when writing for stringed instruments goes beyond most expert string players ability. Please give the violin sonatas a good listening. sit down with the score and let Beethoven do the rest
                          Totally true dahc!
                          Ludwig van Beethoven
                          Den Sie wenn Sie wollten
                          Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by hal9000 View Post
                            What is everyone's favourite recordings of the violin concerto/violin sonatas? While we're at it, what is everyone's favourite recordings of the cello sonatas and trios?
                            With regards to the violin sonatas it is an HIP Naxos CD boxed set I have played by Mary Verny on fortepiano and Benjamin Hudson on violin- simply exquisite!
                            Ludwig van Beethoven
                            Den Sie wenn Sie wollten
                            Doch nicht vergessen sollten

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                              #15
                              Well I have this complete Beethoven set with 87 discs so while I am at work I am going through the violin sonatas. Right now listening to Sonata for violin and piano no 4 in A minor op 231. First movement (Presto) is very good.
                              "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
                              --Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff

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