Mail must have been a nightmare... but then again this is before the age of junkmail...LOL. How could he remember which house is his with so many??
That's cool.
I actually stayed in a hotel in Vienna which was right next door to one of the Beethoven houses, but I forget which one it is. All the Vienna facades are too similar...well, at least to a foreigner... it's more diverse than American suburbia at least...
Originally posted by chopithoven: The buildings shown in this page were reformed or they are the same than 200 years ago?
A mixture of both - The Schwarzpanierhaus is definitely not the original building. The Molkerbastei which was as near to a consistent address Beethoven ever got is original.
Originally posted by Peter: A mixture of both - The Schwarzpanierhaus is definitely not the original building. The Molkerbastei which was as near to a consistent address Beethoven ever got is original.
I've got an early photo of the building as it was in B's time. If you want I could scan it for you, but the quality isn't too hot. For the record the name of the building does not refer to Spanish Moors, as has been suggested by some, but rather black robed priests from a Spanish Christian order who lived in the building, I think their church (or monastery or whatever) was alongside.
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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin
Originally posted by Rod: I've got an early photo of the building as it was in B's time. If you want I could scan it for you, but the quality isn't too hot. For the record the name of the building does not refer to Spanish Moors, as has been suggested by some, but rather black robed priests from a Spanish Christian order who lived in the building, I think their church (or monastery or whatever) was alongside.
Well it would be nice to see it anyway even if the quality isn't much - did you take the photo?
The church was next to B's appartment and I wonder if it still stands. Thanks for the info re the origin of the name, I think it literally translates as house of the Black Spaniard.
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[This message has been edited by Peter (edited 11-27-2001).]
Originally posted by Rod: I've got an early photo of the building as it was in B's time. If you want I could scan it for you, but the quality isn't too hot. For the record the name of the building does not refer to Spanish Moors, as has been suggested by some, but rather black robed priests from a Spanish Christian order who lived in the building, I think their church (or monastery or whatever) was alongside.
More for the record: Benedictine monks from Montserrat (in Spain!), called "Black Spaniards" because of their black robes, took over the building in 17th century and used is as monastery until 1779. The house where B died was replaced by a new one in 1904. It’s at the address 15 Schwartzspanierstrasse (Black Spaniard Street). Still with a Beethoven memorial plate on it though: "Beethovens Sterbehaus".
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