Canons on rare page

[Peter]

Now available on the rare page - they certainly show Beethoven had a sense of humour!
www.kingsbarn.freeserve.co.uk/rare.html

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[Rod]

Originally posted by Peter:
Now available on the rare page - they certainly show Beethoven had a sense of humour!
www.kingsbarn.freeserve.co.uk/rare.html

It's good music as well. I can certainly recommend this disk on the Arts label, It's crammed with rare and interesting stuff, good sound and period instruments too. Chopit better have something to say about them!

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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

[This message has been edited by Rod (edited 11-21-2001).]

[Peter]

Of course it helps to know the story behind each canon and apart from 'Es muss sein' we don't have that much info. I don't know if Claudie can help with a translation of the titles?

Falstafferel, lass dich sehen! WoO184 was written for Ignaz Schuppanzigh who because of his generous proportions, B referred to as Falstaff - I can imagine him having a good old laugh when he heard this piece!

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[Chris]

You weren't kidding about that sense of humor!

[Peter]

Originally posted by Chris:
You weren't kidding about that sense of humor!

I'd love to see the score of 'Esel aller Esel' Hess277 to see the directions for those rather strange sounds!

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[Claudie MICAULT]

My Windows Media Player does not work today !

But I can give you the translation of the titles .

Count, dearest count
Lord Falstaff, let you see
It must be
Dear Count, I am comming to ask
Ass from asses

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Claudie

[Rod]

Originally posted by Peter:
I'd love to see the score of 'Esel aller Esel' Hess277 to see the directions for those rather strange sounds!

Not that strange, I think they are supposed to be donkey sounds Peter.

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[Peter]

Originally posted by Rod:
Not that strange, I think they are supposed to be donkey sounds Peter.

After Claudie's translation that became apparent - however I don't know of any other Beethoven work that calls for donkeys!

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[Lobkowitz]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
My Windows Media Player does not work today !

But I can give you the translation of the titles .

Count, dearest count
Lord Falstaff, let you see
It must be
Dear Count, I am comming to ask
Ass from asses

I'm not too sure about your translation of Esel aller Esel. Shouldn't it be "Ass of all asses" meaning "one ass is more ass than all other asses"!!!

Lobkowitz

[Michael]

Unfortunately I cannot download MP 3's with my ancient computer (I think it's a Broadwood) but I have all the canons on CD and I can give a translation of the current selection from the booklet.

WoO 101 =
Count, dearest Count, dearest sheep!
Best of all Counts, best of all sheep!

WoO 184 =
Falstaffery, show yourself,
Falstaff, show yourself!

(This is a droll greeting and invitation to the violinist Schuppanzigh on his return from a trip to Russia, with reference to his ample belly).

Hess 276 =

Count, I come to ask,
how you are,
whether you slept really well
and had pleasant dreams,
and if nothing distressing happened to you.

Hess 277 =

Donkey of all donkeys, hee-haw.

WoO 196 =

It must be, yes, it must be!
Out with your purse!


One mustn't forget the beautiful and moving WoO 100, again directed at the long-suffering Schuppanzigh:

Schuppanzigh is a scoundrel,
Who doesn't know him,
The fat sour-belly,
The puffed-up ass's head?
O rogue Schuppanzigh,
O donkey Schuppanzigh.
We all agree that
that you're the biggest ass.
O ass, hee-haw.

All those wonderful lyrics come from Ludwig himself.

Michael

[Peter]

Originally posted by Michael:
Unfortunately I cannot download MP 3's with my ancient computer (I think it's a Broadwood) but I have all the canons on CD and I can give a translation of the current selection from the booklet.

Thanks for that Michael - shame you can't download mp3's but it seems as though you have a pretty substantial rare collection already!

I'll add your revelations to the rare page!

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[Rod]

Originally posted by Peter:
After Claudie's translation that became apparent.

This surprises me. Call me Mr Clever (which you may), but I realised the donkey connection immediately on first hearing regardless of the words. Perhaps donkeys moo where you live?

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[Peter]

Originally posted by Rod:
This surprises me. Call me Mr Clever (which you may), but I realised the donkey connection immediately on first hearing regardless of the words. Perhaps donkeys moo where you live?

They've got mad cow in the field next to me!

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[Rod]

Originally posted by Peter:
They've got mad cow in the field next to me!

Mmmm...what have you been doing to them to make them mad Peter....?

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[Peter]

Originally posted by Rod:
Mmmm...what have you been doing to them to make them mad Peter....?

Eating them like every one else probably!


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