Gellert songs - mp3's

[Peter]

The Op.48 Gellert songs are available on the rare page
www.kingsbarn.freeserve.co.uk/rare.html

I have a version of these on Hyperion with Stephan Genz and Richard Vignoles which has extra stanzas not included in the first edition - hopefully I have correctly listed the stanzas available on these mp3's!

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[Claudie MICAULT]

Not bad for an MP3.
Do you know the version of Dietrich FISCHER DIESKAU ? Personnally I prefer Fritz WUNDERLICH....

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Claudie

[Rod]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
Not bad for an MP3.
Do you know the version of Dietrich FISCHER DIESKAU ? Personnally I prefer Fritz WUNDERLICH....

Of the tracks presented here, I prefer the leaner sound of Partridge, though his is not a particularly outstanding performance. DFD is too noisy for me.

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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

[Michael]

I like the Fischer Dieskau version of these songs but I think I prefer Hermann Prey. He has a deeper but softer tone.

Michael

[Rod]

Originally posted by Michael:
I like the Fischer Dieskau version of these songs but I think I prefer Hermann Prey. He has a deeper but softer tone.

Michael

I think DFD is already too deep! A clear and lean tone is required for these songs, with vibrato only used to eccentuate a note on occasion, not used obligato all the time across all notes. DFD shakes the whole Earth sometimes!!

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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

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[Claudie MICAULT]

Originally posted by Rod:
I think DFD is already too deep! A clear and lean tone is required for these songs, with vibrato only used to eccentuate a note on occasion, not used obligato all the time across all notes. DFD shakes the whole Earth sometimes!!

I agree... this came more after he wanted to become a Verdi singer. I also sometimes do not like sone sounds of him which are quite "vulgar" as colour.
I just wanted your opinions because here in Germany he is considered as a god and I do not agree with that. He is very intellectual (one reason for which his Verdi was also not appropriated...) and did a good job to renew a lot of "unknown"lieder and because of his recording Beethoven a lot of people discovered that B. could write very good singing music.
WUNDERLICH and PREY are for me a reference.



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Claudie

[Rod]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:

I agree... this came more after he wanted to become a Verdi singer. I also sometimes do not like sone sounds of him which are quite "vulgar" as colour.
I just wanted your opinions because here in Germany he is considered as a god and I do not agree with that. He is very intellectual (one reason for which his Verdi was also not appropriated...) and did a good job to renew a lot of "unknown"lieder and because of his recording Beethoven a lot of people discovered that B. could write very good singing music.
WUNDERLICH and PREY are for me a reference.

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It surprises me that he wanted to become a Verdi singer, as his singing of B's few Italian songs in this lieder set is the worst of them all! Nevertheless I still recommend this set, in the absence of an 'authentic' alternative, as the essence of B's songs still manages to survive DFD's exuberances!


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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

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[Claudie MICAULT]

Originally posted by Rod:
It surprises me that he wanted to become a Verdi singer, as his singing of B's few Italian songs in this lieder set is the worst of them all!

He tried to do that to be on stage with his wife, Julia VARADY. He has even recorded a CD of VERDI's most wellknown arias.



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Claudie

[Rod]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
He has even recorded a CD of VERDI's most wellknown arias.

Well, I'm sure the Germans liked it...if not the Italians!

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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

[Claudie MICAULT]

Originally posted by Rod:
Well, I'm sure the Germans liked it...if not the Italians!

Not at all : the CD had no success in Germany (it was not German enough !) neither in Italy (it was not Italian enough !)



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Claudie

[Rod]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:

Not at all : the CD had no success in Germany (it was not German enough !) neither in Italy (it was not Italian enough !)

And no success with this Englishman because he is singing Verdi!


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