Need help identifying an orchestral piece [symphony?] with Bb chord & added E natural

[EternaLisa]

Sorrano is once again several beats ahead of me !!!!

....while Pete is silently scrambling to redeem himself in the race of "What The Sound Is That?"

he may show and play to win yet...life is full of surprises...

E

[Quijote]

If we're right, the E you mention (Roark) resolves to a D# (leading note to E minor). Once again, I'm relying on shady aural memory here!

[Sorrano]

....while Pete is silently scrambling to redeem himself in the race of "What The Sound Is That?"



E

We need a thread for that: "What the Sound Is That?"

[Quijote]

And the B-flat (in the bass) would be a B natural. If my aural memory serves me correctly, the passage (if that's the right one) is an extended or elaborated 6/4-cum-dominant 13th (now that's poignant) leading to the new tonic of E minor. If you want, I'll dig out the score tomorrow to double check.

[Sorrano]

I believe the scoring is for an a sharp and not a b flat, but the enharmonic sounds should be correct.

[Quijote]

Sorrano, I think what you are describing-hearing comes just before the passage Roark has in mind. I'm not sure, though, so I'll have to bid you good night from Europe, and report back tomorrow morning!

[Sorrano]

That could be; I was looking at a score a few minutes ago and was stuck on the passages prior. You can get all the scores online, by the way.

[roark_h1]

Thanks to Sorrano & Phillip & all! This may be what I have been looking for!
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I believe Sorrano & Phillip are referring to what I hear near the end of the 1st Mvmt of the Eroica:

here at 8:32-8:36 is a repeated FM7 over A Bass :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvztnHOWEQ
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I hear C/G just prior,
then the FM7 over A Bass w E {& F?} in the highest voices,at 8:32-8:36
leading to B7b9 [w D# in the highest voice], then B7,
then Em [& key of Em.]

This FM7 has the dissonant F-E [M7] & E-F [m2] intervals & is dramatic & a bit shocking! [I don't hear a Bb chord or bass.]
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I'll think it over!
There may have been no Bb chord after all!

[Sorrano]

The B-flat you hear may be the diminished chord that is built on the A-sharp that is several measures early (a-sharp/e/g/c-sharp with a g in the top voice). It's not, of course, a b-flat chord, but emphasizes that enharmonic pitch in the base voices.

Shocking is a good word to use to describe the effect, and the resolution is absolutely brilliant, timed to perfection.

[Quijote]

I think Roark has found what (s)he was looking for. The BRS lives up to its name; most gratifying.