The movie Beethoven's nephew and Beethoven's greatest love

[Immortal Beloved]

Has anyone seen these two movies before? I'm just real curious cause I'm thinking I might want to check it out someday.

Immortal Beloved

[Michael]

"Beethoven's Nephew" was a low-budget movie, made in the eighties. It's not a great film but it has its merits. It's not terribly hard to get on video - I think Suzie got it from ebay.
"Beethoven's Great Love" or "Un Grand Amour de Beethoven" was made by the great French director Abel Gance (of "Napoleon" fame). I haven't seen it, but I do have some stills from the movie, showing a fairly stout actor who looks quite Beethovenish except for the mouth, which is too big and fleshy. The story line makes "Immortal Beloved" look like a model of accuracy:
"One summer night, Beethoven composes the Moonlight Sonata while Giuletta Guicciardi confesses to him that she is about to marry Count Gallenberg. B runs outside into a raging storm - in the middle of which he suddenly realises he is going deaf! - and seeks sanctuary in a windmill ........."
The plot gets worse as it goes on. The film was shot in 1936. Unfortunately, it recovered.

Michael

[Immortal Beloved]

Originally posted by Michael:
"Beethoven's Nephew" was a low-budget movie, made in the eighties. It's not a great film but it has its merits. It's not terribly hard to get on video - I think Suzie got it from ebay.
"Beethoven's Great Love" or "Un Grand Amour de Beethoven" was made by the great French director Abel Gance (of "Napoleon" fame). I haven't seen it, but I do have some stills from the movie, showing a fairly stout actor who looks quite Beethovenish except for the mouth, which is too big and fleshy. The story line makes "Immortal Beloved" look like a model of accuracy:
"One summer night, Beethoven composes the Moonlight Sonata while Giuletta Guicciardi confesses to him that she is about to marry Count Gallenberg. B runs outside into a raging storm - in the middle of which he suddenly realises he is going deaf! - and seeks sanctuary in a windmill ........."
The plot gets worse as it goes on. The film was shot in 1936. Unfortunately, it recovered.

Michael

oh thanks for the information!

[Peter]

Originally posted by Michael:
[B The film was shot in 1936. Unfortunately, it recovered.

Michael[/B]

Wonderful way of putting it Michael!!

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[Claudie MICAULT]

The film "un grand amour de Beethoven" by Abel Gance is great (even if the story is also totally fiction like in "Ludwig van B.".
Harry BAUR (alias B. in this movie) weight 100 kg at least... but is very sensitive.
Funny is the way the music is treated (Beethoven dying on the sound of the Mondschein, sung with the word "Miserere" and other funny things like the hands of Harry BAUR going on the left when the sound go higher... and improvising at the piano the 6th with an orchestra sound....

Anyway, I like this film.

I do not know the "Neuveu de Beethoven" but will find it.

Claudie.

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
The film "un grand amour de Beethoven" by Abel Gance is great (even if the story is also totally fiction like in "Ludwig van B.".
Harry BAUR (alias B. in this movie) weight 100 kg at least... but is very sensitive.
Funny is the way the music is treated (Beethoven dying on the sound of the Mondschein, sung with the word "Miserere" and other funny things like the hands of Harry BAUR going on the left when the sound go higher... and improvising at the piano the 6th with an orchestra sound....

Anyway, I like this film.

I do not know the "Neuveu de Beethoven" but will find it.

Claudie.

Oh thanks for helping me Claudie.

[Michael]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
The film "un grand amour de Beethoven" by Abel Gance is great (even if the story is also totally fiction like in "Ludwig van B.".
Harry BAUR (alias B. in this movie) weight 100 kg at least... but is very sensitive.
Funny is the way the music is treated (Beethoven dying on the sound of the Mondschein, sung with the word "Miserere" and other funny things like the hands of Harry BAUR going on the left when the sound go higher... and improvising at the piano the 6th with an orchestra sound....

Anyway, I like this film.

I do not know the "Neuveu de Beethoven" but will find it.

Claudie.

I suppose I should not have condemned the film without having seen it, but the story seems to be very silly, much worse than "Immortal Beloved". However, Gance has a great reputation as a director and maybe the movie is worth seeing for that reason.
Did you see it on television or video, Claudie?

Michael

[Joy]

I saw Beethoven's Nephew and had a lot of problems with it. You think they made Beethoven look 'grumpy' and serious in Immortal Beloved, you should see this movie!!
Lots of parts were, again, fiction. His nephew was always living with some different woman and the part about B's 9th Sym. wasn't just stretching the truth, it was all wrong.
For one thing, they had him sitting on the sidelines while it was being performed just staring at his nephew (and live in) who, btw,never even attended the premiere, I mean give me a break!!

Joy

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Joy:
I saw Beethoven's Nephew and had a lot of problems with it. You think they made Beethoven look 'grumpy' and serious in Immortal Beloved, you should see this movie!!
Lots of parts were, again, fiction. His nephew was always living with some different woman and the part about B's 9th Sym. wasn't just stretching the truth, it was all wrong.
For one thing, they had him sitting on the sidelines while it was being performed just staring at his nephew (and live in) who, btw,never even attended the premiere, I mean give me a break!!

Joy

That is so lame Holloywood is putting beethoven into ficton instead of the real thing. I'll probably see the other one.


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freedom for all- Ludwig Van Beethoven

[Joy]

Originally posted by ~Immortal Beloved~:
That is so lame Holloywood is putting beethoven into ficton instead of the real thing. I'll probably see the other one.

Do rent "Beethoven Lives Upstairs." Of all the B's movies I've seen, that one is the most accurate. Tell me what you think of it when you see it!

Joy

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Joy:
Do rent "Beethoven Lives Upstairs." Of all the B's movies I've seen, that one is the most accurate. Tell me what you think of it when you see it!

Joy

I did seen beethoven lives upstairs so many times! I love that movie so much!

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freedom for all- Ludwig Van Beethoven

[Claudie MICAULT]

Dear Michael,

I have seen the movie on french T.V.
But you can find it also in Video. I do not know if there is a translation in english...
The real title is :
"Un grand amour de Beethoven" by Abel GANCE (who have realised a very good Napoleon...).
Originally the movie was planed to do about 4 hours and to be a picture of B.'s all life.
But the "censors" avoid GANCE to do so and he had to do only a version about the I.B.
The film is in black and white.(1936)
You can maybe try FNAC.com

Please : can anyone help me to find the film you all seem to love "Beethoven lives upstairs"... I have tried Amazon, eBAY, FNAC but they do not know this tittle...

Many thanks,

Claudie

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Claudie

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
Dear Michael,

I have seen the movie on french T.V.
But you can find it also in Video. I do not know if there is a translation in english...
The real title is :
"Un grand amour de Beethoven" by Abel GANCE (who have realised a very good Napoleon...).
Originally the movie was planed to do about 4 hours and to be a picture of B.'s all life.
But the "censors" avoid GANCE to do so and he had to do only a version about the I.B.
The film is in black and white.(1936)
You can maybe try FNAC.com

Please : can anyone help me to find the film you all seem to love "Beethoven lives upstairs"... I have tried Amazon, eBAY, FNAC but they do not know this tittle...

Many thanks,

Claudie

Try imdb.com You'll find it in no time.

[Claudie MICAULT]

Many thanks, Immortal beloved !

Claudie

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
Many thanks, Immortal beloved !

Claudie

you welcome my friend!

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freedom for all- Ludwig Van Beethoven