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    #16
    I may have to check out the graphic novel; it could quell my thirst for the ring and save me, like a solid week of time.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Sorrano View Post
      I may have to check out the graphic novel; it could quell my thirst for the ring and save me, like a solid week of time.
      It's here:
      http://www.amazon.com/Ring-Nibelung-...ref=pd_sim_b_1

      I have no idea why V1 is so expensive ($800?) and V2 is $3...

      Still - SUPERB.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Ed C View Post
        It's here:
        http://www.amazon.com/Ring-Nibelung-...ref=pd_sim_b_1

        I have no idea why V1 is so expensive ($800?) and V2 is $3...

        Still - SUPERB.
        V1 is expensive because it is only available through the Z-Shops. Amazon actually has V2 on hand, so the price is a little more reasonable. That might be something to wait on and watch. Thanks for the link!

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          #19
          Originally posted by Ed C View Post
          haha - Peter have you read Wagner's "story" - "My Visit to Beethoven"?

          When I first read it I thought it was a true account. But then I was informed it was just a fiction.

          http://scriabin.com/etude/1910/08/a-trip-to-the-shrine-of-beethoven.html
          Yes I have but it was a while back - I'll have to dig it out again.
          'Man know thyself'

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            #20
            Brilliant and funny synopsis of the Ring by Anna Russell - even faster than reading the comic book.

            Pt 1
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7wH-k8LgQ

            Live clip here
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv7G92F2sqs
            Last edited by Ed C; 04-03-2011, 05:45 PM.
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              #21
              IIRC, Brünnhilde instructs the ravens to tell the news to Wotan and to make a quick stop on the way to use the bathroom and to get Loge, who is still burning on her rock, so that he may burn his way up to Walhalla. This happens at "Fliegt heim, ihr Raben" (fly home, you ravens), this is the text:
              Fliegt heim, ihr Raben! Raunt es eurem Herren, was hier am Rhein ihr gehört! An Brünnhildes Felsen fahrt vorbei! - Der dort noch lodert, weiset Loge nach Walhall!
              Denn der Götter Ende dämmert nun auf. So - werf' ich den Brand in Walhalls prangende Burg.

              If you'll accept my flawed translation, this is the best I can do:
              Fly home, you ravens, Tell your masters what you heard here on the Rhine. Pass through Brünnhild's rock. - The one that still burns there, direct Loge to Walhalla! For the end of the Gods now dawns. So - I cast the fire unto the gleaming castle (palace?) of Walhalla.

              So Loge is still in his fire form, and she directs him there. Maybe Wotan already build a pyre expecting his visit?
              "Wer ein holdes Weib errungen..."

              "My religion is the one in which Haydn is pope." - by me .

              "Set a course, take it slow, make it happen."

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                #22
                Originally posted by Rutradelusasa View Post
                IIRC, Brünnhilde instructs the ravens to tell the news to Wotan and to make a quick stop on the way to use the bathroom and to get Loge....Fly home, you ravens, Tell your masters what you heard here on the Rhine. Pass through Brünnhild's rock. - The one that still burns there, direct Loge to Walhalla! For the end of the Gods now dawns. So - I cast the fire unto the gleaming castle (palace?) of Walhalla.

                So Loge is still in his fire form, and she directs him there. Maybe Wotan already build a pyre expecting his visit?
                Yeah, it's all in the comic as you described (and which I tried to summarize a few page scrolls up). I've watched several "Immolation scenes" on Youtube now and I can really appreciate it a bit more now. When Brynnhilde throws the torch (and herself - and poor Grane!) on the fire it's a parallel with sending the ravens to pick up Loge and lead him back to Wotan - tossing flame.

                I think Wotan definitely expects Loge. He has the world ash tree piled up in the form of kindling in the Sacred Hall - and then broods...waiting...

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