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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    I'm not gasping in horror! Obviously a varied diet of anything is essential to avoid boredom, even the finest dish becomes repellent served daily. The Beethoven symphonies are so familiar and have been recorded so many times that is hard to come to them with fresh ears, but I will never forget the sheer joy of first discovering them. With recordings it's so easy to overdose and I did just that when younger with the Beethoven symphonies - now I only listen to them twice daily!
    Yes, I do know what you mean. I do like Beethoven's early symphonies, and the 6th, but have tired of the others. bu I will never tire of his Piano Concerto's , Sonatas and his late String Quartets.
    ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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      These are both good finds, Megan, thank you! On the last link, if you click on the "return" at the bottom of the page that will take you to the parent site, which does contain some good information and references.

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        Originally posted by Sorrano View Post
        These are both good finds, Megan, thank you! On the last link, if you click on the "return" at the bottom of the page that will take you to the parent site, which does contain some good information and references.
        Thanks Sorrano, I also discovered the link with the scores on by clicking 'return' to the parent page.
        It is quite lengthy and haven't had time to read it all yet.
        Here is yet another excellent website: http://www.abruckner.com/


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        Last edited by Megan; 02-11-2011, 02:36 PM.
        ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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          Originally posted by Megan View Post
          Found for Philip.

          I am sure Philip and Sorrano will find this site of great interest.
          Reconstruction of Bruckner's fanale to his 9th symphony,by Dr. Benjamin Gunnar-Cohrs, and Samale.
          Sroll down the pages to view the scores. I went through it very briefly, but you will no doubt understand the references more than I do.

          http://www.opusklassiek.nl/componist...le_wc_spcm.pdf

          Courtesy of the Austrian National Library, Vienna.
          Bruckner's own hand.

          http://www.musicweb-international.co.../bruckner6.htm

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          Megan, you have made my day! Thank you very much indeed for all this research. Can I address any further requests for internet research to your good self in future? Will you be requiring an honorarium?

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            Originally posted by Megan View Post
            Thanks Sorrano, I also discovered the link with the scores on by clicking 'return' to the parent page.
            It is quite lengthy and haven't had time to read it all yet.
            Here is yet another excellent website: http://www.abruckner.com/
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            And thank you for this link too! Wow, Christmas has indeed come early !!!!!!!!
            Hey, thanks to the link above I've found a Bruckner Journal with free (yes, free!) back issues that can be downloaded, with articles by Bruckner specialists. Megan, you're a gem.

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              Originally posted by Philip View Post
              Megan, you have made my day! Thank you very much indeed for all this research. Can I address any further requests for internet research to your good self in future? Will you be requiring an honorarium?

              That's ok Philip, no brown envelopes required.
              Just let us know how your researches go.


              Wasn't it Elgar's 4th Symphony was reconstructed by somebody called Payne? because only a sketch of the 1st movement by Elgar had been made at his death.
              ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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                OK, Megan, understood.

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                  So, I've been listening to Bruckner 8, the Scherzo (again), this time with my youngest daughter (aged 6), and at full volume. I say listening, but I mean dancing around the living room at full pelt ! She loves it. Now she asks me "Put on the Bluckner [sic] again, Papa!".
                  When I try and put on CDs by Cage, Xenakis, Scelsi (and so on), she says "it's scary music". Hmm, interesting ...
                  I am clearly far too lax with her.

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                    Originally posted by Megan View Post
                    That's ok Philip, no brown envelopes required.
                    Just let us know how your researches go.


                    Wasn't it Elgar's 4th Symphony was reconstructed by somebody called Payne? because only a sketch of the 1st movement by Elgar had been made at his death.
                    No, that was Elgar's '3rd' the sketches of which he explicitly requested be destroyed. His 2 completed symphonies are very fine.
                    'Man know thyself'

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                      Originally posted by Peter View Post
                      No, that was Elgar's '3rd' the sketches of which he explicitly requested be destroyed. His 2 completed symphonies are very fine.
                      Thank's for reminding me on that Peter.
                      There is a very poignant photograph which I once saw somewhere of Elgar on his deathbed and the poor chap really did look broken down and senile. I remember reading that the family tried to prohibit the photograph and I have tried to rack my brains where I saw it. Oddly enough, about the same time , I saw a photgaph of Bismark on his deathbead and he looked remarkably similar to Elgar. Again, it was a very sad photograph to see Bismark, this so called Iron Chancellor reduced to skin and bone.
                      A little digression.
                      ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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                        thanks for the Bruckner links, Megan
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                        Today:

                        Stravinsky:
                        In memoriam Dylan Thomas
                        Requiem Canticles
                        Introitus
                        Threni


                        Stravinsky (arr.Oskar Blarr for organ 1971):
                        Dirge-canons
                        Epithaphium
                        Double Canon
                        Elegy for JFK


                        Berg:
                        Violin concerto

                        Hartmann:
                        Symphony no.1

                        Boulez:
                        Rituel

                        Nono:
                        A Carlo Scarpa, architetto ai suoi infiniti possibili (1985)

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                          [QUOTE=Roehre;49632]thanks for the Bruckner links, Megan
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                          Thanks Roehre, I am pleased to help out.



                          Breakfast:

                          Joseph Canteloube — Chants d’Auvergne: Bailéro
                          Performer: Kiri Te Kanawa (soprano) Performer: English Chamber Orchestra Performer: Jeffrey Tate (conductor)

                          Decca 44 995-2, CD1
                          Johann Sebastian Bach — Concerto in A major after BWV 1055
                          Performer: Rachel Podger (violin/director) Performer: Brecan Baroque



                          Gregorio Allegri — Miserere
                          Performer: Alison Stamp (treble) Performer: Jane Armstrong (mean) Performer: Michael Chance (counter-tenor) Performer: Julian Walker (bass) Performer: The Tallis Scholars Performer: Peter Phillips (director)



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                          Last edited by Megan; 02-12-2011, 08:14 AM.
                          ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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                            Originally posted by Philip View Post
                            So, I've been listening to Bruckner 8, the Scherzo (again), this time with my youngest daughter (aged 6), and at full volume. I say listening, but I mean dancing around the living room at full pelt ! She loves it. Now she asks me "Put on the Bluckner [sic] again, Papa!".
                            When I try and put on CDs by Cage, Xenakis, Scelsi (and so on), she says "it's scary music". Hmm, interesting ...
                            I am clearly far too lax with her.


                            What a lovely story, I am pleased your daughter is being introduced to Bluckner.

                            And what a shame it is so many thoughtless parents think it is ok for young children to watch the telly and the pop media.
                            ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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                              Originally posted by Megan View Post
                              Thank's for reminding me on that Peter.
                              There is a very poignant photograph which I once saw somewhere of Elgar on his deathbed and the poor chap really did look broken down and senile. I remember reading that the family tried to prohibit the photograph and I have tried to rack my brains where I saw it. Oddly enough, about the same time , I saw a photgaph of Bismark on his deathbead and he looked remarkably similar to Elgar. Again, it was a very sad photograph to see Bismark, this so called Iron Chancellor reduced to skin and bone.
                              A little digression.
                              Well he certailny wasn't senile - he actually died of cancer. On a more cheerful note I was listening yesterday to his Cockaigne overture 'In London town' - some music just puts you in a good mood!
                              'Man know thyself'

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                                Originally posted by Peter View Post
                                Well he certainly wasn't senile - he actually died of cancer. On a more cheerful note I was listening yesterday to his Cockaigne overture 'In London town' - some music just puts you in a good mood!
                                I didn't mean to imply that he was senile. I think the photgraph was kind of improperly taken. Elgar has left us an enduring legacy as the greatest English composer since Purcell.
                                ‘Roses do not bloom hurriedly; for beauty, like any masterpiece, takes time to blossom.’

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