What are you listening to right now

[Gurn Blanston]

Originally posted by Joy:
... Also Schubert's Unfinished Symphony. I heard on the radio where Schubert made 1/2 dozen "Unfinished Symphonies". I did not know this. What are the other numbers? Why are so many unfinished?? ...

Well, half a dozen is a bit of an exaggeration, I could only find 6 that were either sketches only, fragments, or lost
Oddly, 4 of them were in D major, one in E major and the other one not given. I could list the numbers for you if you would like, but I didn't write them down and my memory chokes on numbers . As to why, well, I don't know. My own opinion on the one that we call "Unfinished" today is that it is as finished as he felt that it needed to be. If you listen to the 2 movements, they seem like a complete entity. IMHO.
For me now, we are finishing with Max Bruch, with the Serenade for Violin & Orchestra, Op 75. If any of you are thinking "I have never heard any of these things", well, neither had I, and it sure isn't because they are no good. I wonder if they are just a casualty of our being in a rut. Guess so. Sigh again.




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Gurn
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[Peter]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
My own opinion on the one that we call "Unfinished" today is that it is as finished as he felt that it needed to be. If you listen to the 2 movements, they seem like a complete entity. IMHO.
For me now, we are finishing with Max Bruch, with the Serenade for Violin & Orchestra, Op 75. If any of you are thinking "I have never heard any of these things", well, neither had I, and it sure isn't because they are no good. I wonder if they are just a casualty of our being in a rut. Guess so. Sigh again.

I'm certain that he didn't intend a two movement symphony (there is a page of a scherzo) - he failed to complete it because of the onset of syphilis and when his health improved he had an urgent need to earn money and so turned to the theatre.

I'm also delving into the realm of obscurities, today a symphony by the Spanish composer Arriaga (1806-1826) and Gluck's delightful ballet Don Juan.

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[Pastorali]

But from Schubert's Symphony #8 is existing a scetch from a third movement, isn't it?

Gurn, back to the roots? Who did fiddle the solo Violin on your Max Bruch tour? The Serenade Op.75 is a favorite of mine too. Sweet as candy, typical Mr. Break... I love it!
If you are talking about Marcia Funebres, I will dig out 'In Memoriam, Op.65 (Adagio for Violin and Orchstra, M. Bruch)

[Gurn Blanston]

Originally posted by Peter:
I'm certain that he didn't intend a two movement symphony (there is a page of a scherzo) - he failed to complete it because of the onset of syphilis and when his health improved he had an urgent need to earn money and so turned to the theatre...

Peter,
Is the scherzo undoubtedly connected with this symphony? If one looks at the time factors, I have always felt as though it was not left off because he didn't have time to write it before his death, so leaving it was voluntary more or less. But as you point out, things like money can be as significant a mitigating factor as death, sometimes.
And now, it is the lovely Concerto in e minor for Cello & Orchestra, Op 85 - Sir Edward Elgar. One of those progressive 20th century guys, IMHO

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Gurn
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[Pastorali]

Originally posted by Peter:
I'm also delving into the realm of obscurities, today a symphony by the Spanish composer Arriaga (1806-1826) and Gluck's delightful ballet Don Juan.

Peter, is it Arragia's Symphony in D major? I hope, it is another one, that surely would be a great piece too. Although my searchings on the web brought no other one to the daylight. But some String Quartets are available, that's for sure. I have heard, some are pretty mad about S.Q.

[King Stephen]

This afternoon it's Paganini's Violin Concertos Nos. 1 and 2. Ya got to give the "Devil" his do. Paganini made the violin sound like a string quartet.

[Pastorali]

W. A. Mozart - the most lovely Piano Sonata KV 570

[Gurn Blanston]

What always amazes me about Paganini is not that he could play those techniques, but that he invented many of them. I have always been intrigued by inventors, I guess. Even though the music is modest in its ambition, it is so spectacular in its technical requirements that it more than makes up.
P.,
Ha, just finished that little sonata myself only a few minutes ago, but now am listening to the Quartet in D major - #21 - K 575 - The Alban Berg Quartet. Amade at his most poignant.


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Gurn
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[Pastorali]

This is my day today! EROICA!!! Zinman of course...

hicks!

[Amalie]

Originally posted by Pastorali:
This is my day today! EROICA!!! Zinman of course...

hicks!

Now then Pastorali, methinks you are having too much of a good thing. It sounds great!
have one on me!


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[Amalie]

Here is a musical joke from Ludwig.

'Meine mutter fragt mich Immer, trinkst Du?'


Meine mutter fragt mich Immer
Trinkst du auch der Madel trank?
Trinkt ihn, Trinkt ihn,
Taeglich, taeglich wirst du schlimmer,
auch die liebe, auch die liebe, auch die liebe,
Macht mich Krank!


Translated

My mother asks me always,
Do you drink the maidens drink?
Drink it, Drink it,
Daily you get worse -
Ah love, ah love, ah love,
Makes me sick!


Original manuscript in the Fischoff Miscellany in Berlin.


A lovely little gem!



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[Sorrano]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
Peter,
Is the scherzo undoubtedly connected with this symphony? If one looks at the time factors, I have always felt as though it was not left off because he didn't have time to write it before his death, so leaving it was voluntary more or less. But as you point out, things like money can be as significant a mitigating factor as death, sometimes.
And now, it is the lovely Concerto in e minor for Cello & Orchestra, Op 85 - Sir Edward Elgar. One of those progressive 20th century guys, IMHO

One musicologist I knew suggested that Schubert had a fear of writing something too similar to someone else's works and left off completing the symphony in that regard.

This morning, transcriptions some of Bach's fugues (I was too sleepy to remember which ones).

[Gurn Blanston]

Originally posted by Sorrano:
One musicologist I knew suggested that Schubert had a fear of writing something too similar to someone else's works and left off completing the symphony in that regard.

This morning, transcriptions some of Bach's fugues (I was too sleepy to remember which ones).

S.
That is very interesting speculation. I have only heard speculations anyway, but not that one. I still think, until proven wrong, that he decided that it was complete as it stood. Perhaps we will actually know, some day.

P.
Oh, with the Zinman again, eh? Great. And also, who are you calling a hick?

Amalie,
That's cool, I wonder if it was set to music like a little canon, or was it just a poem?
Guess it must have been to music, since you call it a musikalischer spaß, I think to be fair you should sing it for us and post it!

For me, it is the Symphonie Espagnole by Edouard Lalo, a splendid Late Romantic 5 movement Violin Concerto. Bueno.



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Gurn
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That's my opinion, I may be wrong.
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[Pastorali]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
Oh, with the Zinman again, eh? Great. And also, who are you calling a hick?

Gurn
Yep! Near at hand to Zurich. But I live in a hicktown, then I must have meant probably myself...
Joseph Haydn, Concerto for Trumpet & Orchestra in E-flat. English Chamber Orchstra - W. Marsalis. Good stuff!

[Amalie]

Amalie,
That's cool, I wonder if it was set to music like a little canon, or was it just a poem?
Guess it must have been to music, since you call it a musikalischer spaß, I think to be fair you should sing it for us and post it!

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I Say Gurn, you are on form today.
Yes, this is delightful little canon, I heard it a few days ago.
I don't really think you would like to hear my voice squawk it through your speakers.
Everyone at work finds my singing extremely amusing. I wonder why?


I recommend that everyone listen the March for Piano duet. Op.45/2, that Rod has kindly
uploaded for us.

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On this relaxing afternoon I am listening to my Ludwig who speaks the language of my soul, 'Pastoral' Symphony no.6
Such soothing balm!


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