Virtual Beethoven, on eBay,

[Amalie]

I have seen a lot of bizarre stuff on eBay, but this is an interesting one.
Don't know where I would fit him in to my sitting room though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=2331

[Gurn Blanston]

Yikes!


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Too scary for me!

[Pastorali]

This is not Beethoven!

It is rather as Michael Jackson gladly would look like.

[Gurn Blanston]

Originally posted by Pastorali:
This is not Beethoven!

It is rather as Michael Jackson gladly would look like.

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[Amalie]

Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:

It is interesting to see peoples reaction.

Just about the last thing that Beethoven I am sure that would have ever wanted, would have been a life size silicone rubber dummy of himself!! One can imagine the sort of language he would have used about the person who had dreamed up such an idea.
Even the glass eyes were made in Germany and there is a spare head to go with it just in case the other gets damaged.
Nein danke!! !!
I think he would have infinitely have preferred people to have got a close acquaintance with his music, rather than some sort of fidelity to his physical appearance.
It is an interesting contrast that paradoxically busts of Beethoven are the most favourite ones of all classical composers. There was an excellent Radio 3 programme on this subject about a year ago, and it is incredible just how widely diffused busts of Beethoven are. There are seemingly countless thousands of households who have no other connection with classical music other than a bust of Beethoven which lovingly has pride of place in their homes. It speaks volumes for Beethoven's mass appeal that no other classcal composer has attained these heights with the ordinary people.



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[Pastorali]

Amalie
Are you often on eBay to look around? Or even bought any things? Recently I bought a book about Beethoven for 1€.
Generally I like it more to search around in real second hand stores, how I did just at noon today and found again five intersting CD's. We are a 'waste-oriented society' and I'm always wondering, what sort of 'pearls' people just giving away... otherwise it is my good luck.

But one point today: I have new goodies, but I'm hungry like a bear!

regards to London

[Amalie]

Originally posted by Pastorali:
Amalie
Are you often on eBay to look around? Or even bought any things? Recently I bought a book about Beethoven for 1€.
Generally I like it more to search around in real second hand stores, how I did just at noon today and found again five intersting CD's. We are a 'waste-oriented society' and I'm always wondering, what sort of 'pearls' people just giving away... otherwise it is my good luck.

But one point today: I have new goodies, but I'm hungry like a bear!

regards to London

No Pastorali, I don't normally search eBay, nor would I purchase anything over the internet. Someone just happened to bring the Beethoven item to my attention.
I am fortunate to live near a classical music specialist shop and can place an order from there if need be. .

[Pastorali]

I threw an eye on this CD's:
http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ayphotohosting

3 CD's for (momentary) 4€! 'The Hanover Band'. Sounds not bad. And the dealer is staying in Switzerland, so paying is easy for me on the 'normal' way, I don't have to do it over the Internet.

The auction is ending this afternoon. I will watch it, and maybe more...

[Gurn Blanston]

Originally posted by Pastorali:
I threw an eye on this CD's:
http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =4003162255&category=1051&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA% 3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

3 CD's for (momentary) 4€! 'The Hanover Band'. Sounds not bad. And the dealer is staying in Switzerland, so paying is easy for me on the 'normal' way, I don't have to do it over the Internet.

The auction is ending this afternoon. I will watch it, and maybe more...

Pastorali,
As you can readily imagine, I am an avid Ebay purchaser. I have gotten several excellent deals on CD's and books and have yet to be disappointed. If, unlike Amalie, you live far from a music shop, this is really a good thing, and I also have no problem at all with used CD's or books, these are things that can't be worn out really, and I have also gotten several good CD's where the shrinkwrap hadn't even been removed yet!! I like it!!


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[Pastorali]

Gurn
I'm making just my first experiences with it, but I keep at the ball! How you say, there are many excellente things, like today! But I didn't make the race, I was simply half a minute too late, means the connection was too slow, a pitty!
Next time again.

One good thing is in any case, you are surely covering an other market as I do. You would be a too hard opponent

BTW: I have an old record player (LP's) which I think I must get back in work. When I look around in the second hand stores here, there are so many CM LP's it's amazing! Many, many Mozart... Yes, it's good fun!

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Originally posted by Pastorali:


BTW: I have an old record player (LP's) which I think I must get back in work. When I look around in the second hand stores here, there are so many CM LP's it's amazing! Many, many Mozart... Yes, it's good fun![/B]

Pastorali,
I love my records and record player,but it is so big, cumbersome and sprawling that it just does not fit into my small house,with my piano,computer,sewing machines, and now my grandaughter's accoutrement,it's been two years since I've last had it up and running.
Muriel

[Margaretha]

Thank you Amalie. I live on ebay, but I've never seen this. Hmmmm... should I bid? It's not quite right.

What do you think of this statue?

They had Beethoven's hair once on ebay. I wanted to bid on it but I didn't believe it was real.

[Joy]

Amalie, can you imagine having this in your home? I wouldn't want to see it sitting there as I was getting up in the middle of the night and might pass it's way. It's downright spooky!

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[Amalie]

Originally posted by Joy:
Amalie, can you imagine having this in your home? I wouldn't want to see it sitting there as I was getting up in the middle of the night and might pass it's way. It's downright spooky!

Personally, I am averse to reducing the great Maestro to this dreadful piece of 'kitsch' .
I have since learned that Gail Altman, author of Beethoven, Man of his World, and 'Fatal Links', has purchased it and using it for educational purposes, bringing Beethoven to the people.
The Beethoven mannequin is in her Bookshop, in a study room as it were, the room is Oriental in decor, and Beethoven sits at his desk, with quill, his candle and his books, and is sourrounded by the subjects which were of interest to him, like music, poetry, philosophy, nature and religion.
Having him in her bookshop gives her the opportunity to educate the public about Beethoven the man & his music, being some sort of paradox, people learn that beautiful uplifting music was written by a man who, along with his darker side, was also generous, kind, funny, and spiritual, a man who wrote that music the way it was bacause of who he was inside.
I guess it doesn't hurt for people to learn about Beethoven also that he wasn't some kind of irascible, ugly little gnome.
Sometimes you have to shock or at least surprise people in order to change their views.
Good luck to Gail Altman!




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