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    Just came across this news item:

    BBC to broadcast Beethoven on TV
    By Matt Born
    (Filed: 19/05/2003)

    The BBC is to screen a dramatised performance of Beethoven's Third Symphony, in a move that will help it placate critics who accuse the corporation of ignoring classical music on television.

    The actor Ian Hart is to play the composer Ludwig van Beethoven - who is suffering a gradual loss of hearing - in the BBC2 period drama-cum-concert, Eroica.

    The 90-minute drama focuses on the day in June 1804 when the symphony was played in full for the first time at a private rehearsal at the palace of Beethoven's patron in Vienna.

    The work is regarded as one of the most important in classical music history, heralding the birth of the romantic period.

    The symphony will be performed in full during the drama - about half of it in the form of a televised concert and the rest as part of the soundtrack.

    Excluding the Proms, it will be the first time in years that the BBC has broadcast an entire symphony in a peak time slot on one of its mainstream television channels. Eroica, filming for which begins this week, is the latest in a spate of more high-brow programmes announced by the corporation in recent months.

    It is likely to fuel the debate over claims that, in the words of a rival broadcaster, the BBC "has a tendency to rediscover old-time religion", once every 10 years as it enters the run-up to its charter renewal in 2006.

    But a BBC spokesman said the collaboration between the drama and music departments, which had never been tried before, was an attempt simply to "get under the skin of this subject - the symphony and Beethoven".

    The script for Eroica, written by Nick Dear, who is also behind the BBC2's drama Byron, starring Jonny Lee Miller, examines the story behind the symphony, in particular, Beethoven's unrequited love for an aristocratic woman.

    The drama also features Tim Piggott-Smith, Jack Davenport and Claire Skinner.

    The music is performed by the Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique, regarded as one of the leading period orchestras in the world, and conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner.



    #2
    Excellent news Michael, so long as they stick to the facts and don't fictionalise the whole thing. I look forward to it!

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      #3
      Yes, sounds great, but if they stick to the part about the 3rd heralding the beginning of the Romantic Era, will you guys be able to tolerate it? Just curious.
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        #4
        Somebody out there please record this movie and send it to me in the states!!!

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          #5
          I am delighted that the BBC are actually deigning to notice the exsistance of Beethoven as a refreshing change from all the trivia and rubbish that passes for content on this supposed public servic broadcaster. I personally won't see it as I do not have a telivision and never have the time.

          Michael mentioned as one of the actors - Tim Piggott-Smith, and I sincerely hope that his performance is somewhat more elevated than a truly dreadful Cassius that he portrayed in Julius Caesar that I saw at the Royal Shakespeare Company a couple of years ago. He, along with his co-actor, Greg Hicks, who played Brutus, in my estimation gave the most appalling account of this great dramatic masterpiece.
          What I find almost unforgivable is that they treated this magnificent play as a joke and unfortunately they have contributed to the decline of a great theatre company, where the mantle of great acting has now passed to Mark Rylance's dazzling company at the Shakespeare Globe in London.

          The Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique should be brilliant!


          [This message has been edited by lysander (edited May 20, 2003).]

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            #6
            It's a shame that here in Vienna we only get BBCPrime and BBC World. I would also like to see how yet another film about Beethoven does him justice or not.

            Like Joy I too would like a copy of this BBC drama. And Joy, if you were to get a copy of this performance, is your VCR or DVD player a "Free Code" players? England is on the PAL system and these will not play on the regular VCR or DVD players in the USA which is the NTSC/Region 1 system. Now my VCR and DVD players are both "Free Code" so I can watch films from all over the world. (hint, hint).

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              #7
              Originally posted by Andrea:
              It's a shame that here in Vienna we only get BBCPrime and BBC World. I would also like to see how yet another film about Beethoven does him justice or not.

              Like Joy I too would like a copy of this BBC drama. And Joy, if you were to get a copy of this performance, is your VCR or DVD player a "Free Code" players? England is on the PAL system and these will not play on the regular VCR or DVD players in the USA which is the NTSC/Region 1 system. Now my VCR and DVD players are both "Free Code" so I can watch films from all over the world. (hint, hint).
              Thanks for pointing that out Andrea. I doubt it as my VCR is pretty old! I guess I'll have to wait until the film comes to America!

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                #8
                I don't understand why everyone is getting excited over dramatized performance of Beethoven's Eroica on Telivision. I'd much rather enjoy a live performance, you just can't beat it! As Peter suggests, there is always an element of hyperbole and fiction and going over the same old ground about Beethoven's deafness.
                I suspect it will take the form of dialogue , between both the music and acting. And in the words of Gurn, that would, "gripe my cookies" .


                I love my Beethoven unadulterated!
                Lysander



                [This message has been edited by lysander (edited May 21, 2003).]

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                  #9
                  I suspect that this programme will be broadcast to coincide with the 200th anniversary of the first performance of the Eroica.
                  If you take into account the sheer number of masterpieces that appeared every year since Beethoven went into overdrive in 1803, we should look forward to a spate of anniversary celebrations. At the very least it may give us a rest from Mozart.
                  Already, the Austro-Hungarian Music Festival of the 7-13 August 2003, are including a reconstruction of the concert of 22nd December 1808. The Fifth and Sixth symphonies will be performed, plus the Fourth Piano Concerto, "Ah! Perfido", the Choral Fantasia and parts of the Mass in C, as in the original concert. All this, of course, will take place in the Theater an de Wien. A package tour is available and I believe details can be found at: www.martinrandall.com
                  e-mails: info@martinrandall.co.uk

                  Michael

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Michael:
                    I suspect that this programme will be broadcast to coincide with the 200th anniversary of the first performance of the Eroica.
                    If you take into account the sheer number of masterpieces that appeared every year since Beethoven went into overdrive in 1803, we should look forward to a spate of anniversary celebrations. At the very least it may give us a rest from Mozart.
                    Already, the Austro-Hungarian Music Festival of the 7-13 August 2003, are including a reconstruction of the concert of 22nd December 1808. The Fifth and Sixth symphonies will be performed, plus the Fourth Piano Concerto, "Ah! Perfido", the Choral Fantasia and parts of the Mass in C, as in the original concert. All this, of course, will take place in the Theater an de Wien. A package tour is available and I believe details can be found at: www.martinrandall.com
                    e-mails: info@martinrandall.co.uk

                    Michael
                    This sounds wonderful! What a time to 'relive' that original concert and what a concert that would be to attend. Thanks for the information!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Michael:
                      Already, the Austro-Hungarian Music Festival of the 7-13 August 2003, are including a reconstruction of the concert of 22nd December 1808. The Fifth and Sixth symphonies will be performed, plus the Fourth Piano Concerto, "Ah! Perfido", the Choral Fantasia and parts of the Mass in C, as in the original concert. All this, of course, will take place in the Theater an de Wien. A package tour is available and I believe details can be found at: www.martinrandall.com
                      e-mails: info@martinrandall.co.uk

                      Michael
                      Yes Michael thanks for that interesting link - something to think about when I plan my holidays!

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                        #12
                        Don't you think that Hugh Jackman would make an excellent young Beethoven? just a thought.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Michael:
                          Just came across this news item:

                          BBC to broadcast Beethoven on TV
                          By Matt Born
                          (Filed: 19/05/2003)

                          The BBC is to screen a dramatised performance of Beethoven's Third Symphony, in a move that will help it placate critics who accuse the corporation of ignoring classical music on television.

                          The actor Ian Hart is to play the composer Ludwig van Beethoven - who is suffering a gradual loss of hearing - in the BBC2 period drama-cum-concert, Eroica.

                          The 90-minute drama focuses on the day in June 1804 when the symphony was played in full for the first time at a private rehearsal at the palace of Beethoven's patron in Vienna.

                          The work is regarded as one of the most important in classical music history, heralding the birth of the romantic period.

                          The symphony will be performed in full during the drama - about half of it in the form of a televised concert and the rest as part of the soundtrack.

                          Excluding the Proms, it will be the first time in years that the BBC has broadcast an entire symphony in a peak time slot on one of its mainstream television channels. Eroica, filming for which begins this week, is the latest in a spate of more high-brow programmes announced by the corporation in recent months.

                          It is likely to fuel the debate over claims that, in the words of a rival broadcaster, the BBC "has a tendency to rediscover old-time religion", once every 10 years as it enters the run-up to its charter renewal in 2006.

                          But a BBC spokesman said the collaboration between the drama and music departments, which had never been tried before, was an attempt simply to "get under the skin of this subject - the symphony and Beethoven".

                          The script for Eroica, written by Nick Dear, who is also behind the BBC2's drama Byron, starring Jonny Lee Miller, examines the story behind the symphony, in particular, Beethoven's unrequited love for an aristocratic woman.

                          The drama also features Tim Piggott-Smith, Jack Davenport and Claire Skinner.

                          The music is performed by the Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique, regarded as one of the leading period orchestras in the world, and conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner.


                          Michael,
                          I am interested to know whether you or anyone else managed to see this live broadcast of Beethoven's Eroica, and whether the drama and the muscic combined well, and true to fact. I understand the Shakespearean actor, Tim Piggot-Smith was in it.
                          Music by the Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique. It would also have been nice to have had it simultaneously broadcasted on the radio.

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                            #14
                            Perhaps it will be on video or already has been?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Amalie:
                              Michael,
                              I am interested to know whether you or anyone else managed to see this live broadcast of Beethoven's Eroica, and whether the drama and the muscic combined well, and true to fact. I understand the Shakespearean actor, Tim Piggot-Smith was in it.

                              As far as I know, Amalie, this hasn't been broadcast yet. There will be an article about it in BBC Music magazine which will be out in a week or so. If I get any more info about it, I will pass it on.

                              Michael

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