Newly discovered Chopin Waltz.

[Megan]

https://youtu.be/

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/29/style/new-chopin-waltz-discovered-scli-intl/index.html

[Chris]

I was just about about to post this. A very interesting discovery! It definitely feels different from Chopin's other walzes, but it does feel like Chopin overall. It reminds me of some of the mazurkas, maybe.

[Peter]

Yes I saw this the other day - there is some scepticism as to the authenticity of this piece, but it's certainly enjoyable and Chopinesque!

[Quijote]

What are you Haydn? The hoaxers who fooled the classical music world

One wrote six sonatas and claimed they were by Haydn. Another used a ghostwriter to write his symphony – and pretended to be deaf. So how did they manage to hoodwink the experts?

There is no paywall for this article, when you navigate to the article in The Guardian, just click on "I'll do it later".

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...al-music-world

[Sorrano]

What are you Haydn? The hoaxers who fooled the classical music world

One wrote six sonatas and claimed they were by Haydn. Another used a ghostwriter to write his symphony – and pretended to be deaf. So how did they manage to hoodwink the experts?

There is no paywall for this article, when you navigate to the article in The Guardian, just click on "I'll do it later".

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...al-music-world

Thanks, Quijote! However, let's not start talking about Luchesi, again.

[Peter]

Thanks, Quijote! However, let's not start talking about Luchesi, again.

Indeed, nor the great P.D.Q.Bach!!

[Peter]

Some interesting observations by the esteemed musicologist Alan Walker on the authenticity of this piece - begins at 3'24

[Chris]

Very informative, thanks for sharing that, Peter. I'm not always convinced by arguments from musicologists that are along the lines of, "there are no other pieces from this composer where he does this", because creative people will experiment and try new things. Maybe the pieces in question are just sketches or experiments. But Walker himself mentions that here too.

[Quijote]

Some interesting observations by the esteemed musicologist Alan Walker on the authenticity of this piece - begins at 3'24

Fascinating video, thanks for that. I was hoping to hear what John Rink had to say but we only get to hear Alan Walker's side. I admire his "reserve" and he asks of course very valid questions.
Still, it does sound very "Chopinesque", maybe it was a discarded sketch, finally. So, the jury is out, let's wait and see...

[Peter]

Fascinating video, thanks for that. I was hoping to hear what John Rink had to say but we only get to hear Alan Walker's side. I admire his "reserve" and he asks of course very valid questions.
Still, it does sound very "Chopinesque", maybe it was a discarded sketch, finally. So, the jury is out, let's wait and see...

Well here it is - Rink's argument for authenticity.

[Quijote]

Well here it is - Rink's argument for authenticity.

Thanks for posting that, I'll have to giive it another hearing. Still, Rink's final point (with many caveats) is that - to paraphrase - it is Chopin.