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    #76
    Originally posted by Peter
    It's a delight this piece as are Haydn's 'cello concertos.
    Glad you liked that. For me, the 2nd movement is what touches me the most.
    That said, I can't help seeing Beethoven in my mind's eye snorting at some of the passages in the 1st and 3rd movements...

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      #77
      Originally posted by Chris View Post

      A wonderful piece, even better than I remembered from a few years ago when last I listened to it. Despite how much I love Haydn, I am often surprised by the quality of his work when I come back to it after some time. I know the symphonies and string quartets and oratorios will be great, but I often fall into the trap of thinking Haydn's concertos and piano works are kind of 'second tier" compared to his other works, but then I listen again and they never are. This is a really good recording of the piece too.
      Glad you liked that.
      I'm discovering some real gems among his piano sonatas, too!

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        #78
        Anyway, we've reached the 5-page limit (6 pages now, mea culpa!) so time for the next installment of the "What are you listening to" thread?

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          #79
          Originally posted by Quijote View Post
          Anyway, we've reached the 5-page limit (6 pages now, mea culpa!) so time for the next installment of the "What are you listening to" thread?
          No we now have a 10 page limit! The (Haydn) C minor sonata is a favourite of mine.
          'Man know thyself'

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            #80
            Originally posted by Peter
            The (Haydn) C minor sonata is a favourite of mine.
            Thanks for posting that, a very fine sonata indeed. In my mind's eye I see Beethoven thinking "Not bad, Papa, not bad at all."


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              #81
              Originally posted by Quijote View Post
              Thanks for posting that, a very fine sonata indeed. In my mind's eye I see Beethoven thinking "Not bad, Papa, not bad at all."

              Yes one of the Sturm und drang sonatas. From a similar period, the Symphony no.39 in G minor.

              'Man know thyself'

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                #82
                Originally posted by Peter

                Yes one of the Sturm und drang sonatas. From a similar period, the Symphony no.39 in G minor.

                Lovely, lively and HIP, right up my street! Hogwood?

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Quijote View Post

                  Lovely, lively and HIP, right up my street! Hogwood?
                  No, Pinnock and The English Concert.
                  'Man know thyself'

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Peter
                    No, Pinnock and The English Concert.
                    Well, I love it. F#. Wonder what pitch Hogwood takes? Let me check... Same.
                    I prefer the Pinnock. Here's the Hogwood:


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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Quijote View Post
                      Well, I love it. F#. Wonder what pitch Hogwood takes? Let me check... Same.
                      I prefer the Pinnock. Here's the Hogwood:

                      I agree with you - see what you make of the Adam Fischer version which I think is at pitch?

                      'Man know thyself'

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Peter
                        I agree with you - see what you make of the Adam Fischer version which I think is at pitch?

                        Yes, at pitch. I've only listened to the 1st movement. I found the Fischer a bit messy to be honest, with rushed passages in the woodwind (around the 2'30" mark - like ducks quacking around out of time) and exaggerated string phrasing, almost a bit Andre Rieu. Otherwise, yes, nice and lively and that'll carry the work in most cases.
                        Last edited by Quijote; 05-23-2022, 06:43 PM.

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                          #87
                          I wanted to post this before but got distracted...
                          I've found the Christmas present I'll be offering myself this year: the Virtual Haydn. Check out these extensive CD booklet notes:
                          https://www.naxos.com/sharedfiles/bo...NBD0001-04.pdf

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Quijote View Post
                            I wanted to post this before but got distracted...
                            I've found the Christmas present I'll be offering myself this year: the Virtual Haydn. Check out these extensive CD booklet notes:
                            https://www.naxos.com/sharedfiles/bo...NBD0001-04.pdf
                            Amazing, but why don't they just record in the real rooms as many of those are still in existence?
                            'Man know thyself'

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Peter View Post

                              Amazing, but why don't they just record in the real rooms as many of those are still in existence?
                              Yes, I wondered that, too. Still, I'm going to get this set and ponder that question later.

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                                #90
                                Reading through the CD booklet I'm prompted to post this wonderful piano sonata by Haydn (Sonata in E Flat Major, Hob XVI 52), his last ever for the piano. It was composed in 1794 and finally published by Artaria in Vienna in 1798. I wonder what Beethoven made of it - he would have had a copy, surely?




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