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    #31
    From a passage in Rilke's ;-
    Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge about
    Beethoven.
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    The Moleur, whose shop I pass every day, has hung two plaster masks beside his door. The face of a young drowned woman, which they took a cast of in the morgue because it was beautiful, because it smiled, because it smiled deceptively, as if it knew.
    And beneath it, 'his' face, which knows. The hard knot of senses drawn tightly together. That inexorable self-condensing of a music continually trying to evaporate.
    The countenance of a man whose hearing a God had closed up, so that there might be no sounds but his own; So that he might not be led astray by what is turbid and ephemeral noises - he who knew in himself their clarity and permanence.
    So that only the soundless senses might carry the world into him silently, a world in suspense, waiting, unfinished, before the creation of sound world-consummator; as that which comes down as rain over the earth and upon the waters, falling carelessly, at random - inevitably rises again, invisible and joyous, out of all things, and ascends and floats and forms the heavens; so our precipitations rose out of you, and vaulted the world with music.
    Your music; it could have encircled the whole universe; not merely us.
    A grand-piano could have been built for you in the Theban desert, and an angel would have led you to that solitary instrument, through mountain-ranges in he wilderness, where kings are buried and courtesans and anchorites. And he would have flung himself up and away, for fear that you woulde begin.
    And then you would have streamed forth, unheard, giving back to the universe what only the universe can endure. Bedouins in the distance would have galloped by, superstitiously; but merchants would have flung themselves to the ground at the edge of your music, as if you were a storm. Only a few solitary lions would have prowled around you at night, in wide circles, afraid of themselves, menaced by their own excited blood.
    For who will now take you out of ears that are lascivious? Who will drive them from the concert halls, these corrupt ears whose sterile hearing fornicates and never conceives.
    But Master, if some pure spirit with a virgin ear were to lie down beside your music; he would die of bliss; or he would become pregnant with infinity, and his fertilized brain would explode with so much birth.


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    [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited August 05, 2003).]
    ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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      #32

      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...68833?V=glance
      ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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        #33
        You found quite a treasure here, Amalie. Lots of songs that I'm sure are rather hard to find. I bet Muriel would be interested. Not a bad price too!

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        'Truth and beauty joined'
        'Truth and beauty joined'

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          #34
          Originally posted by Amalie:

          [URL=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Z34R/002-5899967-0868833?V=glance]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Z34R/002-5899967-0868833?V=glance[/UR L]
          Beethoven's early version of Wo0 154 no.9, Hess 198.


          Oh! would I were but that sweet linnet;
          That I had my apple tree too!
          That I had my apple tree too!
          Could sit all the sunny day on it,
          With nothing but singing to do,
          I'm weary with toiling and spinning,
          And Dermot I never can see,
          Nor sure am I Dermot of winning,
          There's never good luck for poor me!

          ****


          Quite set was my heart all the Sunday
          On going to Killaloe fair,
          So my father fell ill on the Monday,
          And, look ye, I could not be there.
          And it was not the fair that I minded,
          For there was a Dermot to see;
          But I am always before or behind it,
          And there is never good luck for me!

          ****

          I tried with my sweetest behaviour
          to tell our good priest my distress;
          And asked him to speak in my favour,
          When Dermot came next to confess,
          But he said I was but a beginner,
          And from love and temptation must flee!
          So if love will but make me a sinner,
          There's never good luck for poor me!

          ****


          Ye Saints, with the Virgin believe me,
          I join with the priest in your praise!
          Contrive but my Dermot to give me,
          And I'll love you the length of my days,
          In vain they bid me be wiser,
          And never my Dermot to see,
          Bad luck! to advice and adviser!
          Good luck! to dear Dermot and me.

          ****

          ~ By William Smyth

          This is indeed a very beautiful Irish folk song, a hymn like and mournful lay.

          You can listen to an extract of it sung beautifuly . URL given above.

          Amalie.
          ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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            #35
            Originally posted by Joy:
            You found quite a treasure here, Amalie. Lots of songs that I'm sure are rather hard to find. I bet Muriel would be interested. Not a bad price too!


            Thankyou Joy,
            It is rather a rare find, and I am sure Muriel will be very interested in the poem and download and listen to this very lovely Irish folk-song that she was mentioning earlier.
            Oh, would I were but that sweet linnet!

            Just scroll down to the disc and you will find it on no.3. It truly is beautifully sung. Though it is just a short extract.

            I think it is sung by Ann Murray.


            I posted the URL first just to make sure it was going to work.



            [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited August 31, 2003).]
            ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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              #36
              Thank you for this,there was a verse in there that I did not know,I love to sing this and know both the soprano and alto(actually baritone which is a bit low for me) parts ,it was written as a duet with a trio accompaniment.Sadly I sing it accapella as I simply can not find the darn sheet music for it.
              Muriel
              "Finis coronat opus "

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                #37
                Originally posted by Amalie:
                Beethoven's early version of Wo0 154 no.9, Hess 198.


                Oh! would I were but that sweet linnet;
                That I had my apple tree too!
                That I had my apple tree too!
                Could sit all the sunny day on it,
                With nothing but singing to do,
                I'm weary with toiling and spinning,
                And Dermot I never can see,
                Nor sure am I Dermot of winning,
                There's never good luck for poor me!

                ****


                Quite set was my heart all the Sunday
                On going to Killaloe fair,
                So my father fell ill on the Monday,
                And, look ye, I could not be there.
                And it was not the fair that I minded,
                For there was a Dermot to see;
                But I am always before or behind it,
                And there is never good luck for me!

                ****

                I tried with my sweetest behaviour
                to tell our good priest my distress;
                And asked him to speak in my favour,
                When Dermot came next to confess,
                But he said I was but a beginner,
                And from love and temptation must flee!
                So if love will but make me a sinner,
                There's never good luck for poor me!

                ****


                Ye Saints, with the Virgin believe me,
                I join with the priest in your praise!
                Contrive but my Dermot to give me,
                And I'll love you the length of my days,
                In vain they bid me be wiser,
                And never my Dermot to see,
                Bad luck! to advice and adviser!
                Good luck! to dear Dermot and me.

                ****

                ~ By William Smyth

                This is indeed a very beautiful Irish folk song, a hymn like and mournful lay.

                You can listen to an extract of it sung beautifuly . URL given above.

                Amalie.
                Thank you, Amalie, for posting the words. I always enjoying reading the text of a song.

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                'Truth and beauty joined'

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Joy:
                  Thank you, Amalie, for posting the words. I always enjoying reading the text of a song.

                  I also love reading the text to the songs.

                  Here is a version of Wo0 155 no.20, Hess 206, TO THE BLACKBIRD.

                  To the Blackbird

                  Sweet warbler of a strain divine,
                  What woodland note can equal thine?
                  No hermit's matins hail the day
                  More pure and fine from yonder spray.
                  Thy glossy plumes of sable hue,
                  Retiring from the searching view,
                  Protect the like, the leafy screen
                  Beneath whose shade thou sing'st unseen.

                  ******

                  What ermin vest was e'er so warm
                  As plumes of down that cloth thy form!
                  Thy graceful crest, thy sparkling eye,
                  And slender bill of coral dye,
                  Are still less charming that thy song,
                  Which echoes through the woods prolong;
                  Thy mellow strain delights the ear
                  Of the sweet maid my soul holds dear.

                  ******

                  Thou to the poet art allied,
                  Be then thy minstrelsy my pride;
                  Thy poet then, thy song I'll praise,
                  Thy name shall grace my happiest lays;
                  To future lovers shall proclaim
                  Thy worth, thy beauty, and thy fame,
                  And when they hear thee in the grove,
                  They'll own thee for the bird of love.

                  ******

                  (This setting of lyrics by David ap Gwillim for James Thomson, a publisher in Scotland.
                  It is one of the very first folk melodies arranged by Beethoven for Thomson.
                  Thomson wrote to Beethoven; "In this country there is not one pianist in a hundred who could make the two hands go well together in the first ritornello, that is to say, play four notes of one hand and three notes of the other at the same time").



                  [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited September 08, 2003).]
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                    #39
                    Thanks for that one, Amalie. Beautiful words indeed. I think I like to read the texts so much because I love poetry, and they used to write so beautifully. Must be the romantic in me! Here's another one of my favourites:

                    Text by Aloys Jeitteles (1794-1858)
                    From Beethoven's Song Cycle: Opus 98/#1 "An Die Ferne Geliebte" (1816)


                    "On the Hill Sit I, Peering"

                    On the hill sit I, peering
                    Into the blue, hazy land,
                    Toward the far away pastures
                    Where I you, beloved, found.

                    Far am I, from you, parted,
                    Separating us are hill and valley
                    Between us and our peace,
                    Our happiness and our sorrow.

                    Ah! The look can you not see,
                    That to you so ardently rushes,
                    And the sighs, they blow away
                    In the space that separates us.

                    Will then nothing more be able to reach you,
                    Nothing be messenger of love?
                    I will sing, sing songs,
                    That to you speak of my pain!

                    For before the sound of love escapes
                    every space and every time,
                    And a loving heart reaches,
                    What a loving heart has consecrated!



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                      #40

                      ~~ The Zehrgarten Stammbuch for Beethoven ~~


                      [Bonn; October 24 - November 1st,1792]


                      The Idea to Present Beethoven with this Stammbuch [autograph book] probably originated with Matthias Koch and Johann Martin Degenhart, whose names are found in small print in the cover. Koch was the son of Anne Maria Koch, owner of the Zehrgarten, a tavern on the Marktplatz [Marketplace] in Bonn and a favourite meeting spot for the city's young intellectuals. During the eight or nine days before the young Beethoven's departure for Vienna, Koch and Degenhart probably solicited those who frequented the Zehrgarten for poems, epigrams and messages to send the young musician on his way.
                      This might explain the absence from this book of any of Beethoven's musical colleagues in the electoral court music establishment: Christian Gottlob Neefe, Franz Ries, Nikolaus Simrock, the Rombergs, and any number of others whom we might reasonably expect to find. It is more difficult to explain the absence of Franz Gerhard Wegeler, Helene von Breuning, Stephan von Breuning, and Babette Koch, all close friends in Beethoven's latter years in Bonn.
                      Koch probably began soliciting and collecting autographs on or about October 24th and continued to do so until November 1st, the evening of which probably witnessed a farewell celebration at the Zehrgarten, during which the Stammbuch was presented to Beethoven.
                      Even with the passing years Beethoven must have valued it highly since he kept it until his death in 1827.

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                      The following entry in the Stammbuch is by, Johann Martin Degenhart.
                      Bonn; October 30th, 1792


                      It need not be written here,
                      That we remember one another with love;
                      Friendship engraved you, with fiery writing
                      Deeply and irremovably in my heart,
                      And how I would wound you if I
                      Thought otherwise of your mutually sensitive heart.
                      Yea, I always think
                      Of you dearest one, with ardour!
                      Sometimes, as you coax love, anger and subtle jokes,
                      Mighty Master of Music!
                      You coax passions and caprice from the string,
                      With truth and accuracy
                      Such as the devil himself would treasure.
                      Sometimes I think of you at rest
                      From the intoxicating applause,
                      In the intimate circle of friends.
                      If you shed a little tear at the approaching coffin which is holy to us,
                      Then I surely think myself with you,
                      Arm in arm, wandering the hill that
                      until now sheltered the noble one,
                      Unfrequented by a friend
                      Here I sigh with you until K--listens
                      And, favourably inclined, floats down
                      in shimmering garments.
                      He floats near, disturbing the
                      little flower on the grave,
                      Which brings him an
                      Offering of sorrow.
                      Behold! the flower becomes erect. The ivy,
                      which lamented heretofore, lives again.
                      The foliage rustles because of his descent,
                      And his breath wafts
                      Through a lovely breeze.
                      Listen: the conversation begins.
                      His is the language that moans there
                      with the rustling of the Cypress.
                      I answer with a sigh, and you with the
                      sweetest whispers of the lute.

                      ~~ Degenhart ~~

                      Degenhart was a law student who had been the recipient and dedicatee of Beethoven's Duet for Two Flutes, Wo0 26, on August 1792, in anticipation of his coming departure.
                      Gerstinger noted that, although Degenhart probably initiated the Stammbuch project with Koch, his contribution was not entered until October 30th, because of its great lengh and emotional content. Gerstinger also believed that this contribution was patterned after a Klopstock Ode, such as, "Das Bundnis".

                      The Identity of the dead friend K--is unknown.

                      (Taken from; LETTERS TO BEETHOVEN & OTHER CORRESPONDENCE. Translated and Edited by,
                      THEODORE ALBRECHT. Volume 1.)

                      *********
                      Amalie*



                      [This message has been edited by Frohlich (edited October 23, 2003).]

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                        #41


                        ~~ Christoph von Breuning ~~

                        ~~ Bonn; November 1st,1792 ~~

                        [Autograph book entry].


                        See! Albion long beckons to you, O friend.
                        See the shady grove that it offers the singer.
                        Hurry then straight away,
                        Over the surging sea,
                        Where a more beautiful grove offers its shade to you,
                        A bard so kindly extends to you his hand,
                        [He] who fled
                        From our dominions to Albion's protection.
                        There may you song echo full of victory,
                        Loudly, wildly through the grove and over the sea's tumult,
                        To the domain from which you joyfully fled.

                        Think of your friend,
                        C.v.Bruening.

                        **********************

                        Albion of course refers to England, but the Bard is harder to identify: possibly he could be Haydn, who was on his way back to Vienna from a trip to London when he invited Beethoven to study with him; another possible candidate is Johann Peter Salomon, born in Bonn and, since 1781, active as a violinist and impresario in London. Salomon seems to have met Beethoven when he accompanied Haydn to Bonn and may have held out the prospect that the young man might also seek his fortune in England. Throughout Beethoven's life, England remained an elusive goal representing travel and prosperity for him.

                        [Theodore Albrecht]


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