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    #16
    Joy,
    Do you mean to say that Beethoven employed Schindler.I understand Schindler was a conductor and violinist?Was he a professional musician.? Yes I am enjoying Thayer very much ,I have read a few books on Beethoven including Barry Coopers book of which I barely understood a word so lofty a work it was. I enjoyed a book Titled Beethoven by JWN Sullivan it's not a biography more of a critical essay.Very interesting,and the other book I have is one you told me about I think,Beethoven Impressions by his Contemporaries.

    Muriel
    "Finis coronat opus "

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      #17
      Originally posted by spaceray:

      Do I understand correctly that Schindler was Beethoven's "faithful factotum" What was their relationship. Did Schindler inhierit the conversation books? Did he take them? I'm only on Chapter Two of Thayer.

      Schindler was a violinist and conductor. He first met Beethoven in March 1814 but his period of close association really only spans 18 months 1822/3 and the last few months of Beethoven's life. After Beethoven's death he set about falsifying the conversation books (which were not his property) - he added around 150 entries to make it look like he had a much closer involvement with Beethoven over a longer time span. Beethoven was never on intimate terms with him as he tried to make out. He destroyed many of the conversation books and made up blatant lies with a view to blacken the names of Carl Holz, Karl and Johann Beethoven whom he particularly disliked. The result is that no scholar takes him at his word unless it is corroborated by another source. Neither Thayer nor Gerhard Von Breuning in 'Aus dem Schwarzspanierhaus' were aware of these facts which were first discovered in the 1970s.

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        #18


        A Haydn string quartet and Beethoven's piano concerto share the same nickname.

        What is it?
        ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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          #19
          emperor? Just guessing though.
          I watched inmortal beloved the other night and i learnt this. A time traveling beethoven was framed and set up for killing JFK.

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            #20
            What English composer and conductor had an accident involving a marble hearth and a china basin when he was two? The accident left him blind or virtually so for the rest of his life.

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              #21
              Originally posted by mrfixit:
              emperor? Just guessing though.
              Thanks Alex, a well worked out answer, it is the 'Emperor'
              ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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                #22
                Originally posted by urtextmeister:
                What English composer and conductor had an accident involving a marble hearth and a china basin when he was two? The accident left him blind or virtually so for the rest of his life.

                I believe this is the baroque composer, John Stanley, 1712-1786. He began studying music at the age of seven.



                ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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                  #23


                  From which Shakespeare play did Berlioz borrow the story line for this Opera?

                  The play?
                  ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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                    #24
                    Which composer slept for years with scores of Mozart and Beethoven String Quartets next to his bed before finally writing his only non-orchestral instrumental work?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Grillparzer:
                      Which composer slept for years with scores of Mozart and Beethoven String Quartets next to his bed before finally writing his only non-orchestral instrumental work?

                      Good question Franz! Not quite obscure enough though ;-)) It was Giuseppi Verdi who then went on to write the e minor String Quartet. Correctamente?
                      Regards,
                      Gurn
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                      Gurn
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Gurn Blanston:
                        Good question Franz! Not quite obscure enough though ;-)) It was Giuseppi Verdi who then went on to write the e minor String Quartet. Correctamente?
                        Regards,
                        Gurn
                        We all bite the dust as the old Texan gunslinger strikes again!

                        Good one Gurn!

                        [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited September 13, 2003).]
                        ~ Courage, so it be righteous, will gain all things ~

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Amalie:
                          We all bite the dust as the old Texan gunslinger strikes again!

                          Good one Gurn!

                          [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited September 13, 2003).]
                          Aw shucks, ma'am, t'weren't nothin'. Can't fool me with those chamber music questions!! ;-))
                          Regards,
                          Gurn

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                          Gurn
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Amalie:


                            From which Shakespeare play did Berlioz borrow the story line for this Opera?

                            The play?
                            Unless this is a trick question I'd have to say Romeo and Juliet.

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                              #29
                              What was Beethoven's reason for inserting trills at the end of many of his piano compositions?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Andrea:
                                What was Beethoven's reason for inserting trills at the end of many of his piano compositions?
                                Hi Andrea,
                                A good question.
                                I think the trills are to create dissonance and a frisson of emotion and pleasure. The high point of what has gone on before. I am thinking at the moment of Beethoven's wonderful trills in the choral part of the Choral Fantasia, they certainly give me an emotional thrill, it is like experiencing it for the very first time every time I listen. A truly magical effect!.

                                Perhaps your question is trickier than this explanation.


                                [This message has been edited by Amalie (edited September 14, 2003).]
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